Federal 30 Super Carry

[1168]

Valid argument on Capacity. My main argument was on the Ballistics and another logistic burden.

I have no doubt that these factors will be taken into account in whether or not this cartridge is successful. I doubt it will be, but it does have a percentage of my attention span.

[KUSA]

Guys….enough with the presumptions and hope this is going to be able to work in an LCP sized and weight pistol.

Physics says NO

I guarantee you that the laws of physics are not in the way of an LCP sized gun handling this round. There are plenty of competent engineers that could design such a gun. I would buy it too. Even if it costed three times as much.

[Alaskapopo]

The round is as long as the 9mm it will not fit in a 380 platform

[KUSA]

The round is as long as the 9mm it will not fit in a 380 platform

One is a 9x17 and the other is a 9x19. Are you suggesting that someone cannot fit 2mm in there somewhere?

[Alaskapopo]

One is a 9x17 and the other is a 9x19. Are you suggesting that someone cannot fit 2mm in there somewhere?

With that logic you could put a 9mm in a 380 and you can’t. Also there is the 50k of chamber pressure to deal with.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

It might make a good pocket gun size that has the possibility of reliable expansion and penetration over .380

What is the issue with this round in small guns- the 50k pressure and having to have a good amount of mass for the recoil system? Would an HP P7 type gas delayed system be an advantage? More pressure, more resistance?

[Alaskapopo]

What is the issue with this round in small guns- the 50k pressure and having to have a good amount of mass for the recoil system? Would an HP P7 type gas delayed system be an advantage? More pressure, more resistance?

50k is rifle pressure range going to take a locked breach and a 9mm sized pistol.

[WillBrink]

50k is rifle pressure range going to take a locked breach and a 9mm sized pistol.

They already exist:

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product...74&preselect=1

So far, 9mm sized pistol they offer with higher capacity. Is the slightly below 9mm terminal ballistics worth the added capacity all things being equal in terms of the pistol? Probably not. Would be interested to see what the recoil is like compared to 9mm in same pistol.

[KUSA]

With that logic you could put a 9mm in a 380 and you can’t. Also there is the 50k of chamber pressure to deal with.

A competent engineer could deal with it. The gun could be made. It would cost more due to better materials but it could be done.

[1168]

A competent engineer could deal with it. The gun could be made. It would cost more due to better materials but it could be done.

And after that engineer makes those changes, a pistol would also be suitable for 9mm, not just .380 and .30SC. In other words, by the time a gun is scaled up to work with 30SC, it would no longer be a G42.