Federal 30 Super Carry

[TomMcC]

The 50kpsi pressure is interesting. A quad-stack magazine would be less of a brick than the Surefire 60.

Where you seeing that it runs a 50k? That's pretty high for a straight wall pistol cartridge.

[Ron3]

Where you seeing that it runs a 50k? That's pretty high for a straight wall pistol cartridge.

.327 Fed is pretty obnoxious at 45k from the 100 gr Gold Dots @1350 fps from a 2-inch LCR.

50k is from a .313 in bore is going to be extremely loud.

[TomMcC]

.327 Fed is pretty obnoxious at 45k from the 100 gr Gold Dots @1350 fps from a 2-inch LCR.

50k is from a .313 in bore is going to be extremely loud.

45k for the .327 Fed, didn't know they ran that high. That's getting up there in rifle territory.

[Disciple]

Where you seeing that it runs a 50k? That's pretty high for a straight wall pistol cartridge.

https://gununiversity.com/30-super-carry/

30 Super Carry Specs

Bullet Diameter 8mm / .313″
Bullet Weights 100-115 gr
Muzzle Velocity 1250 fps
Muzzle Energy 347 ft/lbs
Cartridge Length 1.169″
Case Length 0.827″
Base Diameter 0.345″
Max Pressure 50,000 psi

I should have read further as those specs are "unconfirmed" so who knows. They were borrowed from https://eb-misfit.blogspot.com/2022/...per-carry.html

[Stopsign32v]

No thanks. With pistol like the P365 that hold so much 9mm while being so small I see no point at all for this. It will flop

[WillBrink]

No thanks. With pistol like the P365 that hold so much 9mm while being so small I see no point at all for this. It will flop

Or, you end up with .380 sized pistols with close to 9mm terminal ballistics. I usually feel these are answers in search of a problem, but this one I think may have potential to fill a use. Never been willing to CCW anything less than 9mm due to terminal ballistics, but a .380 sized pistol with 9mm like terminal ballistics could be a winner. As I'm not an early adopter of any tech, much less something that may save my life, I will sit back and let the shiny new toy beta testers of the world play with it for a while.

[Stopsign32v]

Or, you end up with .380 sized pistols with close to 9mm terminal ballistics. I usually feel these are answers in search of a problem, but this one I think may have potential to fill a use. Never been willing to CCW anything less than 9mm due to terminal ballistics, but a .380 sized pistol with 9mm like terminal ballistics could be a winner. As I'm not an early adopter of any tech, much less something that may save my life, I will sit back and let the shiny new toy beta testers of the world play with it for a while.

It might make a good pocket gun size that has the possibility of reliable expansion and penetration over .380

[WillBrink]

It might make a good pocket gun size that has the possibility of reliable expansion and penetration over .380

Exactly, and that's obviously the intent of the rnd, and if true, win win. I want to see third party testing before I get too excited, but it has potential.

[VIP3R 237]

I been researching this round. I see the benefit over 380 in a micro pistol. But I was hoping for 762x25 ballistics in a full size duty pistol for woods work.

Looks closer to the 30 Luger ballistics.

At first glance I’m not a fan. It has less KE and expansion than a 9x19mm, and will undoubtedly cost more and be far less available. I also don’t think the gun frame sizes will be any smaller as it’s running higher pressures, maybe slightly thinner but why would a mfg tool up for such? (Unless demand really kicks off)

The only pro I can see is slightly higher magazine capacity and less recoil.

[mRad]

Gun owners always want innovation, but they poo-poo anything that isn’t 120 years old.


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