Federal 30 Super Carry

[Alaskapopo]

The problem with anecdotes is that this has also occurred with an off-duty female cop that was ambushed at her home (driveway) and shot in the heart with a .357 Magnum, perforating at least one ventricle (I don’t remember which or both), and more or less destroying the apex of her heart. She returned fire and prevailed in the fight. Coded multiple times, but survived. I don’t think anyone would use such an anecdote to demonstrate that .357M is inadequate…. would we?

In case someone would like to take this the wrong way, I’m not endorsing carrying .380, even though I sometimes do, on the “its better than harsh language” logic. My own anecdotes out-of-hospital have been rather unimpressive, even for a pistol round. Also, many of the .380 guns don’t make as much sense today except as collector’s pieces, in comparison to 9mm carry gats.

Loved that story when I first saw it presented in a street survival training. She had a strong will for live and fight a true warrior. She used her 9mm if I remember correctly

[Ron3]

Super light but haven’t weighed it honestly

Answering Rons question on the weight of a Ruger Max 380

Thanks.

I estimate about 17-19 oz.

[mRad]

The problem with anecdotes is that this has also occurred with an off-duty female cop that was ambushed at her home (driveway) and shot in the heart with a .357 Magnum, perforating at least one ventricle (I don’t remember which or both), and more or less destroying the apex of her heart. She returned fire and prevailed in the fight. Coded multiple times, but survived. I don’t think anyone would use such an anecdote to demonstrate that .357M is inadequate…. would we?

In case someone would like to take this the wrong way, I’m not endorsing carrying .380, even though I sometimes do, on the “its better than harsh language” logic. My own anecdotes out-of-hospital have been rather unimpressive, even for a pistol round. Also, many of the .380 guns don’t make as much sense today except as collector’s pieces, in comparison to 9mm carry gats.

I have heard that story and absolutely get it, .380 is better than harsh words. But we also have options other than the known marginal performer. It’s a rare situation which something like a P365 is so large it can’t be carried, and most all is here have the ability to take more gun if we so choose.

The reality being, we are unlikely to be in a shooting as civilians. But if we do, it’s a matter of life or death. Stack odds in your favor, I say.


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[ABNAK]

This new cartridge is longer than a .380 but thinner. Unless they can shoehorn it into .380-sized pistols I just don't see it taking off or replacing the .380. Putting it into a 9mm-sized pistol? Why?

[mRad]

This new cartridge is longer than a .380 but thinner. Unless they can shoehorn it into .380-sized pistols I just don't see it taking off or replacing the .380. Putting it into a 9mm-sized pistol? Why?

Two more rounds.


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[ABNAK]

Two more rounds.

Yeah but a .22LR can hold even more than that. See where that argument can go?

[mRad]

Yeah but a .22LR can hold even more than that. See where that argument can go?

Absolutely, I see where it CAN go, but is that the case here? I’m not so sure.


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[JoeBobJoe]

https://www.federalpremium.com/30supercarry.html

Federal has a new cartridge out called the 30 Super Carry. 30 caliber, 100 grain bullet, shot at 1150-1200 FPS. Holds 2 extra rounds per mag over a 9mm with less recoil.

I'm not viewing this as a 9mm replacement but i think it would be a great 380 replacement for sub compact guns.

Again a new caliber that is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
9mm with a 100 grain bullet will have as little recoil & a lot more velocity.
Is another round (in the S&W Shield) of a weaker cartige a fair trade, I don't think so.
Your right a good replacement for .380 if gun makers are willing to stuff it into a LCP size & weight pistol.
I'd definitely be interested.

[Ron3]

Here is something I haven't seen mentioned:

If .30SC uses .312 bullets then we'll see it chambered in guns already chambered in .327 Fed Mag using moon clips!

Just something I could see happening.

[johnnyrem]

Guys….enough with the presumptions and hope this is going to be able to work in an LCP sized and weight pistol.

Physics says NO