That’s a lot of info to consume
ETC (SW/AW), USN (1998-2008)
CVN-65, USS Enterprise
Fackler set the Ballistic Research Lab and everyone on their ass with his testing. Pigs pretty well duplicate humans and the shot anesthetized pigs at the presidio followed by lots of barbecues. He told me he went to two autopsies where guys hearts were obliterated with 12 gage shotguns and both subjects made it over 50 yards with no hearts. You should have been as his lectures.
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>YOU IDIOTS! I WROTE 1984 AS A WARNING, NOT A HOW-TO MANUAL!--Orwell's ghost
Psalms 109:8, 43:1
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Yes there was the big FBI MIAMI shooting in mid 80s. The CSI came to FLETC and briefed us on it. One was recorded, the other was not and that was one I was at.
One of them had a Ruger Mini 14, former Marine. He was first one shot with 9MM Silvertip and it severed artery and he shot seven agents after taking that shot. The other guy got off one shot and hit a gov't vehicle with his shotgun. He only fired one round in whole scenario.
Don't remember N Hollywood?????
For the record, my intent is not to celebrate those assholes (I wholeheartedly join in the much deserved feting of Ed Mireles as the hero of the day), just noting the danger of a truly determined and motivated enemy and the importance of having a healthy respect for that danger.
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>YOU IDIOTS! I WROTE 1984 AS A WARNING, NOT A HOW-TO MANUAL!--Orwell's ghost
Psalms 109:8, 43:1
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Thanks, the last wreck did a number on me. Grade 4 concussion, pretty well deaf from double air bag deployment with windows up, vehicle rolled after 55 MPH headon.
A head shot (i.e. through the brain, not the face) or a spinal strike are about the only ways to guarantee the vaunted and proverbial "one shot stop". That includes with rifle rounds, not just handguns. The "computer", i.e. brain, or it's "cable" are the only foolproof way to instantly stop a threat. Of course how far down the "cable" will also come into play; you might make them a paraplegic but their hand can still pull a trigger.
I have read of a number of cases (in combat or on the street) where the recipient of a wound was shot right through the heart and was still able to fight back, albeit for a very limited time. Of course it only takes a fraction of a second to squeeze that trigger.
11C2P '83-'87
Airborne Infantry
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