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    Quote Originally Posted by georgeib View Post
    Honestly, Yoni, with the way they've been taking this country and it's military for the past couple of decades, I've really started to believe that their intention IS the destruction of America. Whether that destruction is soft, or hard, I cannot say. So, if they were to engage the Russians in the clumsy manner you describe, it wouldn't surprise me.
    Do not think for a second that the USA is not in the middle of a Marxist Revolution. We are 100% in a Marxist Revolution.

    A few things must happen to stage a successful revolution by g-dless commies.

    1. Chaos this breaks down the faith of the people in the institution of government. This has nothing to do with who is in government. The distrust is in the form of government.

    2. Destroy the middle class. A vibrant middle class will never go for Marxist BS, the poor and the rich go for it but not the middle class. But a man that used to be middle class and today he can't feed his children will maybe buy into it for food for his kids.

    3. Disarm the people.

    The Marxist party of the USA AKA Democrats are working to do all of the above. I almost hope the Marxist don't lose in November. If they lose they will go underground and we will never rid ourselves of the cancer. If they win, maybe things will get so bad American patriots will start carrying sunflower seeds to hand out to the Marxist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    If Ukraine didn't get fooled by the USA, they still would have nukes and would not be at war right now,
    Now, now, pay no mind to that corrupt government behind the curtain!

    I've said from the beginning that this is Biden wagging the dog. He had every tool at his disposal to prevent this from happening (at least for now) and he not only didn't use them, he did the exact opposite. It's just like Trudeau having every option on the table with the truckers, and he went full scale authoritarian tyrant as if it was always the only option.

    These politicians have an AGENDA to serve and they are not going to let dead Ukrainians stop them from pursuing it. We know how they feel about us. We know how they feel about the Constitution. We know how they feel about globalism. We know how they feel about what I like to call "pressurized migration". But wag the dog with Russia and suddenly it's all "USA! USA! USA! If you don't support US & NATO intervention in Ukraine you're a goddamned Russian leg humper!!! "

    This conflict is so far from black and white it's ridiculous. We're the woman in the red dress in The Matrix and Ukraine was Neo. Suddenly he turns back around and Agent Putin has a Deagle in his face. That doesn't make the Agent the good guy, but we were the shiny bauble that got Ukraine firmly caught in the trap.


    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    I am in shock at how stupid the MSM and every political type has been on Ukraine and how to hurt Putin. A misstep could turn the USA into a hot mess, that would take decades to undo if ever. But you hear these idiots talk about the USA hitting Russia with cyber attacks or throwing Russia out of SWIFT. Sure hit Russia with both of these and then Russia hits the USA with cyber in ways the majority of people don't have an idea of what Russia can do. Second if we throw Russia out of SWIFT. Then China and Russia with help of a few other nations build an alternative to SWIFT and the dollar crashes
    What about Russia's 2019 position that removing Russia from SWIFT is tantamount to a declaration of war? It's like some people refuse to listen when someone tells you what they are.
    What if this whole crusade's a charade?
    And behind it all there's a price to be paid
    For the blood which we dine
    Justified in the name of the holy and the divine…

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    If Ukraine didn't get fooled by the USA, they still would have nukes and would not be at war right now,
    If they didn’t get fooled by the USA guess what?

    They’d still be part of Russia.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Wow. Ok.

    So we've gone from "Never gonna happen" and now we are doing "They were asking for it."

    Unreal some of the comments on this forum.
    You still don’t study history and geopolitics. I thought after the war with the Georgians you’d figure it out. You haven’t.

    All of you were saying the plan was to take Ukraine but none of you could address WHY. You still cannot despite all the interviews floating on YouTube, despite the books written by Brzezinski and Engdahl and who knows else.

    All you’ll be able to do is respond if you sit back and wait for the lying mainstream media to fill your head with garbage.

    I won’t even try to fill you in. You’re a “hardliner” who feels there’s no way I could know something you don’t.

    Just go grab your rifle and a ticket to Poland. You can March from there to free Kiev.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    You still don’t study history and geopolitics. I thought after the war with the Georgians you’d figure it out. You haven’t.

    All of you were saying the plan was to take Ukraine but none of you could address WHY. You still cannot despite all the interviews floating on YouTube, despite the books written by Brzezinski and Engdahl and who knows else.

    All you’ll be able to do is respond if you sit back and wait for the lying mainstream media to fill your head with garbage.

    I won’t even try to fill you in. You’re a “hardliner” who feels there’s no way I could know something you don’t.

    Just go grab your rifle and a ticket to Poland. You can March from there to free Kiev.


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    Not sure WTF you are talking about.

    Same reason he annexed the Crimea, he is snatching up territory because he can.

    Georgia didn't "ask for it", they got invaded.

    Crimea didn't "ask for it", they got invaded.

    And Ukraine did NOTHING to "ask for it", they are being invaded.

    WTF are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Not sure WTF you are talking about.

    Same reason he annexed the Crimea, he is snatching up territory because he can.

    Georgia didn't "ask for it", they got invaded.

    Crimea didn't "ask for it", they got invaded.

    And Ukraine did NOTHING to "ask for it", they are being invaded.

    WTF are you talking about?
    You prove my suspicions quite valid.

    Thanks.




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    Didn't Crimea have a referendum, and because it's filled with mostly ethnic Russians, and has historically been part of Russia vote to separate from the Ukraine? I keep hearing that Crimea was annexed, but that's not how I remember reading about what happened at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgeib View Post
    Didn't Crimea have a referendum, and because it's filled with mostly ethnic Russians, and has historically been part of Russia vote to separate from the Ukraine? I keep hearing that Crimea was annexed, but that's not how I remember reading about what happened at the time.
    Rooskies invaded, announced "independence", then the Rooskies held (and counted) the election to be annexed into Russia.

    Big surprise, they won.
    Go Ukraine! Piss on the Russian dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    You prove my suspicions quite valid.

    Thanks.




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    You are consistent as well.

    Putin has talked for a long time about rebuilding lost Soviet territory. And whenever we've had a weak president, he knows he's free to add a new piece.

    You can think otherwise if you wish. You can think you know more about history and geopolitics if you wish. But either start talking about what you know or stop talking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by utahjeepr View Post
    Rooskies invaded, announced "independence", then the Rooskies held (and counted) the election to be annexed into Russia.

    Big surprise, they won.
    Sounds about right.
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