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Chelsie Kryst, a former Miss USA winner, is thought to have jumped 29 stories to her death. Suicide is always a tragedy and such a selfish act, its sad.
Her family said (in part) "But most importantly, as a daughter, sister, friend, mentor, and colleague – we know her impact will live on."
They really said that...
Andy
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Mental illness is very sad. I heard she left a suicide note.
After falling 29 stories, that was indeed quite an impact.
Sic Semper Tyrannis
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How is it a selfish act? Are we obligated to live for the world?
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It is the ultimate avoidance of responsibility and complete disregard for everyone else on the planet - the most selfish act there is.Originally Posted by KUSA
Yes, we owe it to the world to live, generally.
Andy
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Are you a slow person?
Yet it is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succor of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till.
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5th post and we're bickering already?
I have really short temper tonight. If someone, anyone returns the punch, I will make this thread commit suicide.
Be nice to each other.
Riots are like sports, it's better to watch it on TV at home.
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Sometimes sure. But as a blanket statement no. I never understood it until a very good friend shot himself this year. Still don’t understand it. But in his case it was far from selfish. We only walk in our own shoes.
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I have know several people who have attempted suicide, and they were quite serious about it. A couple have described not only the absolute mental anguish that brought them to that place, but also physical pain from having such severe depression.
Don’t screw around if you or someone you care about is having a problem. Professional help an make all the difference.
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This, 100%
Don't mistake my feeling it is selfish for being insensitive. I have lost relatives and friends to suicide, each one was tragic and each one left this world too early.
Andy
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I disagree. If anyone has final say on my existence, it's me.
It's sad when suicide involves misunderstandings, mental disorders and things of the like that would otherwise make the action preventable and unnecessary. But there are times when it would be completely rationale and understandable.
If I did something so terrible (intentional or unintentional) that I could no longer live with myself, that would be justified to me.
If life and things beyond my control (for example I was forced to live in Portland or Detroit) became so intolerable to me that there was no point in going on, then that would be perfectly rationale. If I was dying of an incurable disease and all my good days were behind me and there was nothing but pain and suffering in front of me, I don't know why anyone would want to endure that.
The biggest problem with suicide is it is rarely, a completely reasoned and thought out action. Usually it is done with a false perception of events and an emotional act.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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