Well I hate thieves

[.45fan]

Get another before the one you have is too old to help you raise it up.

They really do learn a LOT from having others like them around...

Our male is 9 and taking the loss of the female hard. I'm worried when he dies it will mess up the new one.

We were thinking of waiting until he is getting close then get two more so they have similar ages.

[SteyrAUG]

Our male is 9 and taking the loss of the female hard. I'm worried when he dies it will mess up the new one.

We were thinking of waiting until he is getting close then get two more so they have similar ages.

A new puppy might give your male an extra year or two. If you introduced a new dog now, it would take the eventual loss in 2-4 years much better than your male is probably taking the current loss. Also simplifies who is the alpha.

[.45fan]

A new puppy might give your male an extra year or two. If you introduced a new dog now, it would take the eventual loss in 2-4 years much better than your male is probably taking the current loss. Also simplifies who is the alpha.

That is possible.
The female was the Alpha.

Thx

[DG23]

That is possible.
The female was the Alpha.

Thx

Had one female left from last pair when I brought these pups home. That existing dog was fairly protective of the yard / property before they came along but once she realized they were here to stay she became really protective of them as well. Bitch would go to the edge of the property lines and be on constant watch for anything whenever I took them all out together. She was not about to tolerate any strange animals or people getting near those pups...

If I could go back in time I would have brought the new pups home a few years sooner so they could have had more time with the older dog and could have learned more from her. Lost the older dog due to DCM before the pups were 6mos old. That sucked big time, Both losing the one girl like that and losing all the training that she could have easily helped the pups learn a LOT faster than without her around.

'Monkey see - monkey do' learning is a real thing with dogs. If they see one dog respond to a command or signal and then perform a particular action to get a reward or praise they will want to do it too. Same thing even if no treats around.

Example: Current girls (back when they were pups) pups both busted their asses many of times when first learning how to jump into the one truck I had that was pretty well on up there in height. The one girl finally figured it out and was soon making the exact jump she wanted with ease each and every time. Her sister saw that and I honestly believe it made her jealous and want to TRY even harder until she could do the same thing just as well. Seemed as if her watching the one girl do it successfully every time gave her more confidence that she could do it also...

[Averageman]

If I could go back in time I would have brought the new pups home a few years sooner so they could have had more time with the older dog and could have learned more from her. Lost the older dog due to DCM before the pups were 6mos old. That sucked big time, Both losing the one girl like that and losing all the training that she could have easily helped the pups learn a LOT faster than without her around.

'Monkey see - monkey do' learning is a real thing with dogs. If they see one dog respond to a command or signal and then perform a particular action to get a reward or praise they will want to do it too. Same thing even if no treats around.

I've seen this work numerous times.

[DG23]

Our male is 9 and taking the loss of the female hard. I'm worried when he dies it will mess up the new one.

We were thinking of waiting until he is getting close then get two more so they have similar ages.

You bring home a few pups now and it will get his mind off of that loss...

Years from now you will have two more 'of similar ages' that got to benefit some from having the older adult dog around to help you bring them up / help them learn all of the pack rules.

[.45fan]

Had one female left from last pair when I brought these pups home. That existing dog was fairly protective of the yard / property before they came along but once she realized they were here to stay she became really protective of them as well. Bitch would go to the edge of the property lines and be on constant watch for anything whenever I took them all out together. She was not about to tolerate any strange animals or people getting near those pups...

If I could go back in time I would have brought the new pups home a few years sooner so they could have had more time with the older dog and could have learned more from her. Lost the older dog due to DCM before the pups were 6mos old. That sucked big time, Both losing the one girl like that and losing all the training that she could have easily helped the pups learn a LOT faster than without her around.

'Monkey see - monkey do' learning is a real thing with dogs. If they see one dog respond to a command or signal and then perform a particular action to get a reward or praise they will want to do it too. Same thing even if no treats around.

Example: Current girls (back when they were pups) pups both busted their asses many of times when first learning how to jump into the one truck I had that was pretty well on up there in height. The one girl finally figured it out and was soon making the exact jump she wanted with ease each and every time. Her sister saw that and I honestly believe it made her jealous and want to TRY even harder until she could do the same thing just as well. Seemed as if her watching the one girl do it successfully every time gave her more confidence that she could do it also...

You bring home a few pups now and it will get his mind off of that loss...

Years from now you will have two more 'of similar ages' that got to benefit some from having the older adult dog around to help you bring them up / help them learn all of the pack rules.

Good information, thank you

Do you get two pups from the same litter or go to different breeders?

[DG23]

Good information, thank you

Do you get two pups from the same litter or go to different breeders?

Same litter.

Last three pairs have all been from same litters. Different breeders each time but always littermates.



Something I have noticed with littermates -

Even though they come from the same parents they will NOT be carbon copies of the parents or each other. You should 'expect' differences in personalities between them as they mature as well as differences in health related matters.

You can raise them exactly the same, train them exactly the same, feed them exactly the same yet still have noticeable differences between them as they grow into adults.

[.45fan]

Same litter.

Last three pairs have all been from same litters. Different breeders each time but always littermates.



Something I have noticed with littermates -

Even though they come from the same parents they will NOT be carbon copies of the parents or each other. You should 'expect' differences in personalities between them as they mature as well as differences in health related matters.

You can raise them exactly the same, train them exactly the same, feed them exactly the same yet still have noticeable differences between them as they grow into adults.

Great thanks.

You answered the next questions as well.
I guess we will start searching now.

Thanks for the help!

[The_War_Wagon]

Very sorry to hear this!
My house is rather remote and I wonder if my time will come.
I hate the idea of needing a security system because of all the cost and opportunity for hacking/sharing of info.

With the low cot of cameras these days, having cell uplink to call 9-1-1 is the only expensive part of it, unless you want the camera feed routed to your primary location (if your retreat is not your full-time home) & report it yourself. That's a pain, unless you work from home & can monitor the feed the whole time.