Atf to have rules on pistol braces aug ‘22

**yoni** · 03-04-22, 13:47

Didn't the Supreme Court in the end rule the bump stock ban was unconstitutional?

If they did, then do nothing and wait for the court to rule.

**Dan_B** · 03-04-22, 17:54

Google shows the bump stock ban is still in effect. It’s waiting for a TBD review by the Supreme Court, but until they say differently, it’s illegal.

For the brace, if they pass these irrational rules, it’ll take a similar path (despite not being passed as a law). Who knows how long it will take (assuming they choose to act) to just get back to today’s less than ideal state.

**Press Check** · 03-04-22, 23:33

Some of the commentary here suggests that the brace itself is under attack and is being banned like the bumpstock, but it's the pistols configuration that's under attack. The way I understood this months and months ago, it will probably be a pistol that's configured with a magnified optic, PEQ, etc.

**emt370** · 03-05-22, 06:35

Originally Posted by Press Check

Some of the commentary here suggests that the brace itself is under attack and is being banned like the bumpstock, but it's the pistols configuration that's under attack. The way I understood this months and months ago, it will probably be a pistol that's configured with a magnified optic, PEQ, etc.

Yes and no. You are correct, however, to proceed on the “worksheet”, a brace such as an SBA3 has too many points for that one accessory alone, hence that model of brace is de facto banned.

ETA: Not that you can’t still possess an SBA3 and place a brace on a rifle, but as far as a pistol is concerned, it’s contraband.

**flenna** · 03-05-22, 07:05

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**Dan_B** · 03-05-22, 10:02

Poor choice of words!

I fundamentally disagree with what BATFE is doing in this case, and several other cases, but they are not under any rational context Natzi. Very stupid choice of words.

**Press Check** · 03-05-22, 15:11

Originally Posted by emt370

Yes and no. You are correct, however, to proceed on the “worksheet”, a brace such as an SBA3 has too many points for that one accessory alone, hence that model of brace is de facto banned.

ETA: Not that you can’t still possess an SBA3 and place a brace on a rifle, but as far as a pistol is concerned, it’s contraband.

Semantics, but I suppose the definition of banned is based on how you interpret it, be it outright banned, or defacto banned. Regardless, based on what has been published by the ATF, braces are not being outright banned, nor will they become contraband, or prohibited from use on an AR pistol. The problem is, in a nutshell, the ATF is developing a worksheet outlining what peripherals (accessories) they deem appropriate for use on an AR pistol.

If you think about it, this will be an arduous, uphill battle for them that simply cannot be won as they are very narrow-minded.

**Hulkstr8** · 03-05-22, 17:31

Originally Posted by Dan_B

Poor choice of words!

I fundamentally disagree with what BATFE is doing in this case, and several other cases, but they are not under any rational context Natzi. Very stupid choice of words.

because he said rule nazi? I guess I just put it in the same vain as soup nazi, grammar nazi, etc. I didn't read anything into it.

It's all socialists to me.