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Thread: Advice on building a 6.5 Grendel for hunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Tone Effect View Post
    Hi there, glad to be here.

    I really like a two-tone look to most everything. Car paint schemes, firearms, etc.

    I came because I need advice on building a set of 6.5 Grendel rifles for hunting. Doing a "his" and "hers" set of AR's on consecutively-numbered lowers.

    At the moment I'm trying to figure out what barrel profile, length, material, and maker for the builds. Rifles will be for hunting in mostly wooded areas. Deer will be the common target.

    Thanks!

    So far: Anderson lower, Aero Precision upper, Rock River Arms lower parts kit with National Match 2-stage trigger, ERGO grip.
    So I hope this doesn't sound impolite because I'm not trying to be impolite. But I'd worry a lot less about color scheme and worry a lot more about not building anything with a complete piece of crap lower like Anderson. Although going 6.5 does limit your options.

    His and hers rifles and all that other stuff is fine, personal decisions and all that. But don't buy and build crap.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Oh where to start? Lots to catch up on here.

    I posted here because I had trouble posting at all....seems there is a 48 hour wait to post and when I looked, I couldn't seem to find a "New Member Forum" or something similar. Could have just been me, not trying to bash the forum and I might be getting it mixed up with this other forum I joined about a day later.

    Wife has never hunted. I am certainly getting the cart before the horse but with AFT's (as Brandon spelled it) new plans, I'm thinking better to get those parts now than pay more for them / involve an FFL later.

    Silencer? Extra $200.00 per rifle? So where are you working and are they hiring? LOL. I don't know much about cans and not sure if legal for hunting here. I'd like to have that but I was thinking given 6.5's speed a suppressor might work better with a .300 Blackout. I do plan to wear some sort of hearing protection that allows normal hearing but blocks out loud noises. I've had tinnitus since I was 15 and don't want it getting any worse. I even wear earplugs while using a push mower these days and wish I always had.

    I did find 65grendel.com about a day after joining here. Same threads on there as here and very similar name.

    No idea if Anderson is a bad lower or not as I've read good and bad reviews, certainly not the most expensive but I was able to get consecutive numbers easily, unlike the other lower makers I tried and I spoke with several.

    If the lower is somehow defective it can be replaced pretty easily. If my wife hates hunting I can sell the rifle or just get a girlfriend that does. (YA RIGHT!) My wife is pretty cool but allowing me to run around with other women........she'd turn that rifle on me!

    Already two pages with an admittedly badly-named thread title......seems to be working fine and thank you all for the comments.

    I hope Wilson Combat's barrel is up to snuff. I'm not seeing anything else I really like in that price range.

    Was considering an Alexander Arms barrel but they don't offer a full BCG. Did consider Lilja Barrels but their price is 2x that of Wilson and again, have to provide my own BCG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Tone Effect View Post

    No idea if Anderson is a bad lower or not as I've read good and bad reviews, certainly not the most expensive but I was able to get consecutive numbers easily, unlike the other lower makers I tried and I spoke with several.
    https://www.m4carbine.net/archive/in.../t-192146.html

    https://www.m4carbine.net/archive/in.../t-197928.html

    https://www.m4carbine.net/archive/in.../t-216763.html

    So just an FYI, and for me I don't think consecutive serial numbers are nearly as important as known spec issues. One common theme is everyone who "loves" their Anderson build has never owned anything else so they have no idea what a quality rifle is actually like.

    It's a bit like me saying my Hi Point is just as good as a Glock because it's never NOT fired but I've never owned a Glock.
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    Thousands of dead gang bangers would disagree with the Hi Point comparison. LOL

    However that's why I'm here...to get advice. Also I'm open-minded and better to find out now than later.

    So, next question......what's a lower maker with no markings on the right side of the magwell and that offers lowers in consecutive serial numbers? (Both are "must have's" for me).

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    I'd rather have unprotected sex with a tranny than purchase a stripped Anderson lower. Consistently across the board I have seen more issues with them, than an other lower.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Tone Effect View Post
    Thousands of dead gang bangers would disagree with the Hi Point comparison. LOL

    However that's why I'm here...to get advice. Also I'm open-minded and better to find out now than later.

    So, next question......what's a lower maker with no markings on the right side of the magwell and that offers lowers in consecutive serial numbers? (Both are "must have's" for me).
    I'm not going to try to talk you out of skipping good brands cause of consecutive serial numbers; you want what you want. But, since you mentioned not wanting to deal with extra FFL costs in the future with potential ATF rules coming, why not buy the Andersons to scratch your consecutive serial number itch - and then buy two stripped lowers from a more quality brand?

    I'm not sure how much Andersons cost right now, but unless they went up a lot in price, they won't be far off from what extra FFL fees would have been.

    If things get stupid with needing FFL's for any AR parts in the future, then I'm sure prices on all things AR related will be going up by then. You can get really good stripped lowers for not much more than an Anderson costs.

    Unlike reaching a point of diminishing returns on the extreme high priced AR's and AR parts - I found the opposite to be true on the lower price end of the spectrum. Quality difference in LPK's and stripped receivers from higher end brands is much better than lower end brands, while the price differences between the two are not that big.

    I like Centurion C4 lowers, but have seen many other good brands on sale recently like Geissele (they come in different anodized colors too for two-tone schemes if that's your thing).
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    Solgw has a sweet 13.7 6.5g in stock on their website right now.

    Dont fudge around with meme tier parts...

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    I'd rather have unprotected sex with a tranny than purchase a stripped Anderson lower.

    So will your gay sex video be up on Xhamster for us to view?

    Funny but rather over-the-top. Looked into Anderson a bit more last night and the most common issue I read about was the grip screw hole being drilled too shallow. Tested one of my Anderson lowers this morning and that wasn't the case. Test fit one of my other complete uppers and it seemed to fit just fine, holes lining up.

    As to QC....on my M&P 15 I bought back in 2009, when I tried to put a RRA NM trigger kit in the pins holes were clearly not perpendicular with the lower's sides. Maybe that's how those are supposed to go but I doubt it. Installed the safety had no clearance as it'd bang into the trigger group. I ended up having to Dremel part of the safety bar away, just enough so it'd fit into the lower!

    I assume in the mad production rush post Obama election (remember the run on surplus ammo in 2008?) that Smith and Wesson had relaxed quality control in favor of boosting production.

    For what I have in my Anderson lowers.......$16.00 for one (Gunbroker auction win) and two others at like $65.00 a piece, if the builds don't go well I'll just replace.

    I will hold off on having the two engraved though.....pending the lower builds and testing with the upper off my M&P.

    In the meantime I'll see if Aero Precision can get out some "no small logo" lowers in consecutive numbers.



    Funny but we can test it....

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    I'd rather have unprotected sex with a tranny than purchase a stripped Anderson lower.

    So will your trans-attracted sex video be online for us to view? You know, "pics or it didn't happen."

    It is a funny reply and I got a kick out of it but it's rather over-the-top. Looked into Anderson a bit more last night and the most common issue I read about was the grip screw hole being drilled too shallow. Tested one of my Anderson lowers this morning and that wasn't the case. Test fit one of my other complete uppers and it seemed to fit just fine, holes lining up.

    As to QC....on my M&P 15 I bought back in 2009, when I tried to put a RRA NM trigger kit in the pins holes were clearly not perpendicular with the lower's sides. Maybe that's how those are supposed to go but I doubt it. Installed the safety had no clearance as it'd bang into the trigger group. I ended up having to Dremel part of the safety bar away, just enough so it'd fit into the lower!

    I assume in the mad production rush post Obama election (remember the run on surplus ammo in 2008?) that Smith and Wesson had relaxed quality control in favor of boosting production.

    For what I have in my Anderson lowers.......$16.00 for one (Gunbroker auction win) and two others at like $65.00 a piece, if the builds don't go well I'll just replace.

    I will hold off on having the two engraved though.....pending the lower builds and testing with the upper off my M&P.

    In the meantime I'll see if Aero Precision can get out some "no small logo" lowers in consecutive numbers.



    Funny but we can test it....
    Last edited by Two Tone Effect; 03-15-22 at 11:35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Tone Effect View Post
    I'd rather have unprotected sex with a tranny than purchase a stripped Anderson lower.

    So will your trans-attracted sex video be online for us to view? You know, "pics or it didn't happen."

    It is a funny reply and I got a kick out of it but it's rather over-the-top. Looked into Anderson a bit more last night and the most common issue I read about was the grip screw hole being drilled too shallow. Tested one of my Anderson lowers this morning and that wasn't the case. Test fit one of my other complete uppers and it seemed to fit just fine, holes lining up.

    As to QC....on my M&P 15 I bought back in 2009, when I tried to put a RRA NM trigger kit in the pins holes were clearly not perpendicular with the lower's sides. Maybe that's how those are supposed to go but I doubt it. Installed the safety had no clearance as it'd bang into the trigger group. I ended up having to Dremel part of the safety bar away, just enough so it'd fit into the lower!

    I assume in the mad production rush post Obama election (remember the run on surplus ammo in 2008?) that Smith and Wesson had relaxed quality control in favor of boosting production.

    For what I have in my Anderson lowers.......$16.00 for one (Gunbroker auction win) and two others at like $65.00 a piece, if the builds don't go well I'll just replace.

    I will hold off on having the two engraved though.....pending the lower builds and testing with the upper off my M&P.

    In the meantime I'll see if Aero Precision can get out some "no small logo" lowers in consecutive numbers.



    Funny but we can test it....
    It's not "over the top" at all, it's a quote from a SME who is no longer with us.
    Gettin' down innagrass.
    Let's Go Brandon!

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