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Thread: Advice on building a 6.5 Grendel for hunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Tone Effect View Post
    Thousands of dead gang bangers would disagree with the Hi Point comparison. LOL

    However that's why I'm here...to get advice. Also I'm open-minded and better to find out now than later.

    So, next question......what's a lower maker with no markings on the right side of the magwell and that offers lowers in consecutive serial numbers? (Both are "must have's" for me).
    Might be a few still alive if they had Glocks.

    Anyway, just here to provide information. What you do with that information is your business. Lots of people build hobby rifles, nothing wrong with that. You are now making informed decisions based upon personal criteria.

    Also probably somebody should explain the nature of the forum. We have collectors, retro builders, hobby shooters and all kinds of "other" gun guys but at the core are "working guys with work guns." They take this stuff very seriously because they bet all the marbles on their guns and gear being reliable. They don't give a crap about somebodies retro build, they don't give a crap about somebodies 7.2mm special snowlflake rifle and they sure as hell don't give a crap about my HK 33k, except in those dedicated forums where the people have a dedicated interest in that stuff.

    So there are "work rifles" which are serious business here and then there is "every thing else."

    My only hope for you, is that you are able to find something a bit more high quality than Anderson to complete your hobby rifle project. But I don't know what that would be because my knowledge of 6.5 offerings is limited.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    It's not "over the top" at all, it's a quote from a SME who is no longer with us.

    If it's not "over the top" why has the original post of it disappeared?

    What's a "SME?"

    What does "no longer with us mean?" Banned, dead, what?

    Anyway, just here to provide information. What you do with that information is your business. Lots of people build hobby rifles, nothing wrong with that. You are now making informed decisions based upon personal criteria.

    Also probably somebody should explain the nature of the forum. We have collectors, retro builders, hobby shooters and all kinds of "other" gun guys but at the core are "working guys with work guns." They take this stuff very seriously because they bet all the marbles on their guns and gear being reliable. They don't give a crap about somebodies retro build, they don't give a crap about somebodies 7.2mm special snowlflake rifle and they sure as hell don't give a crap about my HK 33k, except in those dedicated forums where the people have a dedicated interest in that stuff.

    So there are "work rifles" which are serious business here and then there is "every thing else."

    My only hope for you, is that you are able to find something a bit more high quality than Anderson to complete your hobby rifle project. But I don't know what that would be because my knowledge of 6.5 offerings is limited.


    I'm not sure what to make of that reply........other than you really want me to agree with you and build the rifle you'd want to build.

    Out of curiosity I slipped in the two take down pins and put one of my Aero Precision uppers onto one of my Andersons. Fit was tight as a drum with no play at all. I put the grip screw in and no problems there either. So I'm going forward with this project and if I'm not banned for not fitting in with "the nature of the forum" I'll report back my findings when I have those.

    If it turns out Anderson lowers really are as bad as you and others here assert, then I'll take my parts out and get something else, and I'll report those findings here.

    Considering the warnings though, I have decided to build the lowers and test them with an upper before sending those off for engraving. So the Doubting Thomas's have had some impact on my plans.
    Last edited by Two Tone Effect; 03-15-22 at 21:28.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Tone Effect View Post
    It's not "over the top" at all, it's a quote from a SME who is no longer with us.

    If it's not "over the top" why has the original post of it disappeared?

    What's a "SME?"

    What does "no longer with us mean?" Banned, dead, what?
    The original post didn't disappear, it is in one of the links provided to you by @SteyrAUG, which you would have seen had you bothered to read them. SME = Subject Matter Expert and yes he has passed away.
    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...83#post2511783
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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Tone Effect View Post
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    I will hold off on having the two engraved though.....pending the lower builds and testing with the upper off my M&P.
    Why are you having the lowers engraved?


    I would look hard at making it .223 with good bullet selection if it is legal in your state.

    Look for a 16” barrel and keep it on the lighter weight side. I wouldn’t pass up an 18” if it’s in stock and not too heavy.

    Get a decent light weight handguard. Avoid making it longer and thus heavier than needed.

    Some people are actually more sensitive to muzzle blast than recoil. I would have her shoot it with both a break and flash hider and let her choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Tone Effect View Post

    I'm not sure what to make of that reply........other than you really want me to agree with you and build the rifle you'd want to build.
    Well you'd be way off then, for starters I'd never build a 6.5 so obviously I'm not trying to get you to do anything the way I'd do it. Like I specifically said "What you do with that information is your business."
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    To: The OP
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    Dear OP,

    Did you come here seeking build advice or looking for confirmation of the choices you already made? I'm fine either way, but you've received excellent advice and appear very hesitant to act on the solid advice given.

    Love,

    HKGuns

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    I built a 16" lightweight hunting rifle from the Alexander Arms builders kit and it is pretty nice. Hunted with a 20" heavy barrel grendel for a few years and for woods close in shots and carrying ease, the 16" lightweight is way better. Stick with lower power scope and decent mags and good to go.

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    16 or 18" lightweight or fluted.

    But I've not had a bad Grendel barrel. I'm sure they exist, but what you're talking about is not building a bench gun.

    The reason you're getting what you're perceive as negative feedback is because you're worrying about things that don't make too much of a difference, while taking a chance with a bottom feeder lower receiver.

    I know many people have used Anderson poverty ponies and had good results. And I know of others who've had problems with specs. Which Anderson took care of for their dealer did.

    I bought them as cheap as $25 out the door. But when I could get arrow lowers for $49, and even now for $79, they are a much better option.

    For what you're building I would get a BA Hanson lightweight Grendel barrel if you can find one. Or a BA regular barrel, lightweight profile. Then put something like a ALG lightweight tube handguard on it.

    Briefly Midway sold one of Alexander arms European made 18" fluted barrels for a very good price. We built my son a hunting Grendel using that.

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    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?p=3020023

    This discussion is an example of what you can run into using low-end lower receivers. There's more to it than just the pins attached to your upper receiver.

    If fire control group holds for the slightest bit off it can make your trigger heavy or creepy or super light.

    There are certain things that are hard to get wrong in a lower, but any holes that are drilled usually are where you'll see variability as it's dependent on getting the receiver in the jig accurately, good equipment, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinzgauer View Post
    Then put something like a ALG lightweight tube handguard on it.
    Good luck with that, ALG is out of the rail business. I think they have like (4) 10"/12" EMR V0X of various colors on closeout.
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