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    If memory serves back when I was doodling out a couple custom 1911s in college, FLGR's are must-haves for certain hotter loads like 10mm, .45 Super/.450SMC and up. (The .45 Super used an adaptation of the Detonics multi-spring recoil system, which is giving me fits trying to figure out how to replicate it for a 7" Longslide SMC.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPM View Post
    There is absolutely zero benefit to a full length guide rod, except for the perception that the gun hand cycles smoothly.
    Having used both I would agree. My Colt Super functions 100% with either set up so I'm free to choose. I will say that the Wilson flatwire spring with GI plug functions in hand cycle just as smoothly as a FLGR, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    If memory serves back when I was doodling out a couple custom 1911s in college, FLGR's are must-haves for certain hotter loads like 10mm, .45 Super/.450SMC and up. (The .45 Super used an adaptation of the Detonics multi-spring recoil system, which is giving me fits trying to figure out how to replicate it for a 7" Longslide SMC.)
    Reach out to Thomas Scriminger at 460Rowland.

    I bet that guy can help you out or point you in the right direction.

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    Have to see what he can suggest. Thanks. IIRC .460 Rowland is a little more powerful than Super/SMC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Have to see what he can suggest. Thanks. IIRC .460 Rowland is a little more powerful than Super/SMC.
    Had to mention him to you after reading what you said about the multi spring longslide stuff you were working on. I can't remember the name of the particular video or else I would link you to it - But I just saw one of their videos and in it he described doing a Rowland conversion on a long slide 1911 and it also being a multi spring deal. Will bet that he can help you get sorted out there.

    Very friendly and informative guy. Had always been willing to help me with whatever Rowland loading (or whatever) questions I had either phone (if he had time) or email (if he was to busy for a phone call). Good people there...

    My Rowland stuff from them did come with 2 piece FLGRods. Might not matter when the spring weights are on the low side but as they get heavier it seems to me that swapping them out is a lot more easy with the 2 piece rod than with the traditional GI design. When spring tuning for a particular load I might have to change springs a few times before I get it right and it is fast and easy doing it the way Scriminger does. (Slide removed from frame first and then while holding the one hand over the spring to keep in in place separating the guide rod sections with the other before removing stuff)

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    I always heard it was for accuracy, but after buying some Nighthawks, Ed Browns and SA Pro's, that DID NOT have it. I figured maybe not really needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappabear View Post
    I always heard it was for accuracy, but after buying some Nighthawks, Ed Browns and SA Pro's, that DID NOT have it. I figured maybe not really needed.

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    Mechanical accuracy in a 1911 is only made up of the barrel fit(to include link) and bushing fit. That’s really it.

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    I run these flgr, and have had really good luck with them. Makes take down easy, and my guns run great with them.

    https://dawsonprecision.com/guiderod...son-precision/


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    An FLGR in a 2011 is pretty much mandatory, a 1911’s a different deal- unless you run a tapered/Bull Barrel/comp (no bushing).
    A true "Gun Guy" (or gal) should have familiarity and a modicum of proficiency with most all firearms platforms.

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    I installed a standard guide and plug in my LW Commander and will hit the range Sunday to verify reliability.

    Andy

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