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It is not the Cav Arms stock. See below picture. Also lacks the Cav Arms oversized notch for the rear swivel. Would also explained the price point difference.
Others have posted the differences on the other site.
That said, the Cav Arms stock is pretty solid once you replace the butt plate.
Last edited by mrbieler; 06-24-23 at 09:43.
- Jeff
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This is one of their hybrid carbines on 4th of July sale. It's got bits off both M16A1 and M16A2 carbines -- exactly like Colt's commercial lines when they were clearing out old stock to make new guns.
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That’s a nice looking carbine.
- Jeff
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” ― George Orwell, 1984
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I know it's in jest, but the H&R M1s were made from 1953 to 1956, after the end of WWII and most after the cessation of hostilities in Korea.Originally Posted by Ned Christiansen
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Well, I ended up trying the foam method on my early PSA/Brownells buttstock. Bottom line, it worked, even if I could have done it a bit better. Very tight fit on the receiver extension now, but it lacks the hollow sound it had before. The stock also is a bit sturdier, and heavier to boot.
After filling with foam, while waiting for the foam to cure:
After curing and trimming some excess:
--British veteran of the Ukraine War, discussing the FN SCAR H.It's f*****g great, putting holes in people, all the time, and it just puts 'em down mate, they drop like sacks of s**t when they go down with this.
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Nice. What kind of foam did you end up using?
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Brilliant job !!! I think I'll follow your lead.
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Locktite Tite Foam Multi-Purpose. It said it was good for door and window use, but I tested it on a empty Pepsi bottle. When it didn't bulge it out, I figured I was probably safe trying it on my stock.
Video of the sound difference. Crappy video is crappy, but hopefully you can hear the difference in the before and after:
https://flic.kr/p/2oLyShq
--British veteran of the Ukraine War, discussing the FN SCAR H.It's f*****g great, putting holes in people, all the time, and it just puts 'em down mate, they drop like sacks of s**t when they go down with this.
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Nice, good call on the foam. The difference is night and day.
“You have made us for yourself, O Lord, and our heart is restless until it rests in you.” -Augustine
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Finally got a chance to put some rounds through the XM16E1 I got a few weeks ago. Put a bit over 800 rounds through the rifle Saturday, mix of LC M193, LC M855, Winchester 62 grain training ammo, and 55gr reloads. Even put a few 55gr True Velocity ploymer cased rounds through it to see how it worked. Wish I could say it ran flawlessly, but it had more than its fair share of malfunctions. Mostly magazine related, but quite a few weapon related ones initially. Those seemed to work themselves out over time, but the most concerning issue that remains is just how tight the chamber seems to be. Spent brass looks like I've rubbed it with sandpaper.
Top row some PMC brass fired from my in-law's AR, bottom row a mix of LC, Win, and FC brass fired through the H&R. Photo taken with flash to show case the scratches.
Possibly related, I had a instance of head-case separation on a FC case. The next round fed right into the case, and is now permanently attached to it. Ended up knocking the case out with a cleaning rod I brought in case H&R outdid themselves and made a perfect replica of the XM16E1s, right down to their problems. Well done guys! (I joke, this is more than likely a fault in the brass, I had similar issues with FC cases splitting almost a decade ago, and this one likely dates back that far.)
Anyone else ever have similar issues with the chambers being rough?
--British veteran of the Ukraine War, discussing the FN SCAR H.It's f*****g great, putting holes in people, all the time, and it just puts 'em down mate, they drop like sacks of s**t when they go down with this.
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