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    Of all the AR's I own, I don't own a Sig despite owning so many other SIG handguns etc. I should grab a MCX at some point. I'll let the program run a while and maybe one day Ill buy one. Pretty cool they are trying to up the gun our boys goto battle with our flag on their shoulder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mig1nc View Post
    But one thing he said was that for urban fighting he'd rather have an M4.

    Question for you vets: would the significantly better barrier penetration of 6.8x51 be more of an advantage in an urban fight vs the lighter weight of the M4A1?

    Would the trade be with it?
    For this vet: I'd take a Mk 18 or similar for strict urban warfare (meaning constant room clearing, counter-insurgency Iraq-style), but a 6.8x51 or 7.62 gun for a general-purpose carbine. If we're talking about WWII, or Ukraine-style urban warfare, with more "destroy everything and fight from the rubble" I'd take the battle rifle options. Penetration is helpful, especially when trying to fight it out against an enemy in a fortified position, and the increase in recoil (assuming we're talking bout .308 level of recoil and not much more) in an urban setting isn't that big of a handicap.

    For both, I'd much rather have a full-power cartridge in the fireteam's AR/LMG than 5.56. Not the question asked, and not the subject of GT's video, but important to note.

    But, I'm an admitted battle rifle fanboy, and the above has been my opinion since well before 6.8x51 was a thing.
    ...they should have seen that arms in their citizens' hands could not make them tyrants, but that evil orders of government make a city tyrannize. Since they had a good government, they did not have to fear their own arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mig1nc View Post

    Question for you vets: would the significantly better barrier penetration of 6.8x51 be more of an advantage in an urban fight vs the lighter weight of the M4A1?
    No. if i need to shoot through brick walls, a Bradley or similar can do that. The lighter weight is speed, and speed is security.

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    I would be interested to hear from Spec Ops guys and SNIP on this.
    Thats my history.

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    Thank you for the replies.

    I appreciate the insight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappabear View Post
    Of all the AR's I own, I don't own a Sig despite owning so many other SIG handguns etc. I should grab a MCX at some point. I'll let the program run a while and maybe one day Ill buy one. Pretty cool they are trying to up the gun our boys goto battle with our flag on their shoulder.

    PB
    PB, the problem with waiting is that by the time it’s sorted out, Sig moves on to the next big thing. At least with rifles, they never stick with anything long enough for it to mature…
    Last edited by dlrflyer; 05-23-22 at 14:14.

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