Army picks SIG to produce Next Generation Squad Weapon

[Diamondback]

Fast battleships like the Iowa- and King George V-Classes were the ultimate evolution of the battleship lineage and were designed to operate exactly as I said.

KGV was actually pretty typical for a late-stage battleship and pretty comparable in speed to the North Carolina, South Dakota and Yamato classes; Iowa was a singularity among designs because it combined the speed of a battlecruiser and the armor of a battleship where previously any given nation had only had financial and technological resources for "speed or armor, pick ONE." (Ironically, Jacky Fisher's battlecruiser concept found itself best fulfilled with the aircraft carrier, a fast warship with long-range weaponry.

28 knots was pretty typical for the "last generation" but still a bit too slow to keep up with the carrier task forces they found themselves escorting; ironically the older and slower ships like Tennessee found a second life in Naval Gunfire Support where speed was of less importance.

[Corse]

Well, if it doesn't, then there really is no reason for this new rifle and round. The whole point of this .277 Fury was that it was supposed to punch through Level IV plates at up to 600 yards away because of this fear that we're going to fight the Russians and/or Chinese in same kind long range of battles in the same environment that we encountered in Afghanistan, only they're going to be wearing body armor.

Can anybody explain how this is possible? It seems like the velocity to defeat lvl 4 will not be there.

[Diamondback]

Can anybody explain how this is possible? It seems like the velocity to defeat lvl 4 will not be there.

Sounds like Wishcastium cores driven by new unicorn-fart-augmented powders...

[C-grunt]

Can anybody explain how this is possible? It seems like the velocity to defeat lvl 4 will not be there.

Lets not forget that the claimed 3000 FPS is out of a 16 inch barrel. The XM5 has a 13 inch barrel.

[ABNAK]

KGV was actually pretty typical for a late-stage battleship and pretty comparable in speed to the North Carolina, South Dakota and Yamato classes; Iowa was a singularity among designs because it combined the speed of a battlecruiser and the armor of a battleship where previously any given nation had only had financial and technological resources for "speed or armor, pick ONE." (Ironically, Jacky Fisher's battlecruiser concept found itself best fulfilled with the aircraft carrier, a fast warship with long-range weaponry.

28 knots was pretty typical for the "last generation" but still a bit too slow to keep up with the carrier task forces they found themselves escorting; ironically the older and slower ships like Tennessee found a second life in Naval Gunfire Support where speed was of less importance.

Or "crossing the T" in Surigao Strait!

[Diamondback]

Or "crossing the T" in Surigao Strait!

There is that. Oldendorf's relics were nicely matched to their Rising Sun peers under Nishimura, so aside from our radar and numbers advantages it was almost a pure contest of tactician's skill.

[gesundheit]

As for the obvious route of refining the 5.56, there's not enough payola for Beltway Bandits in that... lobbyists and consultants and other camp-followers gotta get their piece of the action, and then there's the matter of senior officers and career bureaucrats feathering their retirement beds with those sweet defense-contractor "VP of Doing Nothing" gigs.

This is the real motivator.

[Slater]

"The XM5, which weighs about two pounds heavier than the M4, and the XM250, which is about four pounds lighter, are still in their prototype phase and may change slightly by the time it is out for mass production. The XM5 weighs 8.38 pounds and 9.84 with the suppressor. The XM250 weighs 13 pounds with a bipod and 14.5 with the suppressor.

Currently the XM5 basic combat load is seven, 20-round magazines, which weighs 9.8 pounds. For the XM250 the basic combat load is four 100-round pouches, at 27.1 pounds. For comparison: the M4 carbine combat load, which is seven 30-round magazines, weighs 7.4 pounds, and the M249 light machine gun combat load, which is three 200-round pouches, weighs 20.8 pounds.

The overall length of the weapons with suppressors attached are 36 inches long for the XM5 and 41.87 inches long for the XM250. The barrel of the XM5 is 15.3 inches long and the XM250 is 17.5 inches long. The barrel on the XM250 is also not considered a quick-change barrel like the M249."


https://www.army.mil/article/256697/...dier_lethality

[Vgex2]

I am convinced this whole thing was another money laundering scheme. Now moreso than ever.

[C-grunt]

"The XM5, which weighs about two pounds heavier than the M4, and the XM250, which is about four pounds lighter, are still in their prototype phase and may change slightly by the time it is out for mass production. The XM5 weighs 8.38 pounds and 9.84 with the suppressor. The XM250 weighs 13 pounds with a bipod and 14.5 with the suppressor.

Currently the XM5 basic combat load is seven, 20-round magazines, which weighs 9.8 pounds. For the XM250 the basic combat load is four 100-round pouches, at 27.1 pounds. For comparison: the M4 carbine combat load, which is seven 30-round magazines, weighs 7.4 pounds, and the M249 light machine gun combat load, which is three 200-round pouches, weighs 20.8 pounds.

The overall length of the weapons with suppressors attached are 36 inches long for the XM5 and 41.87 inches long for the XM250. The barrel of the XM5 is 15.3 inches long and the XM250 is 17.5 inches long. The barrel on the XM250 is also not considered a quick-change barrel like the M249."


https://www.army.mil/article/256697/...dier_lethality

I think that article had a misprint on the barrel length. Everything else I've read says the XM5 barrel is 13 inches.