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    Quote Originally Posted by mack7.62 View Post
    If you've seen some of the Ukraine drone bomber videos showing them dropping anti-tank grenades with 3D printed tail fins or RPG rounds here is the Russian version, a hand grenade in a plastic cup. i think Ukraine is winning the drone wars.

    https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1526187528868573184

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    Video of a Russian UAV dropping a grenade (RGD-5?) in a plastic cup on Ukrainian positions.
    https://t.me/romanov_92/14944
    Not the first time I’d be blown up by the contents of a SOLO cup….
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    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...rtillery/page6

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    NEW: Ukraine has put 74 of the 90 U.S.-provided howitzer artillery pieces provided into the fight with Russia: senior U.S. defense official

    The howitzers are proving "very effective" the official said. U.S. has sent 60 percent of 209,000 artillery rounds promised to Ukraine.
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    Don't know what took this out but Canada if providing Ukraine with M982 Excalibur rounds.

    https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/stat...86406665285633

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    The moment Russia’s 240 mm 2S4 Tyulpan self-propelled heavy mortar was destroyed yesterday in Rubizhne by Ukrainian artillery.
    #Russia #Ukraine
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    This is a pretty interesting thread on differences between Western and Russian artillery logistics.

    https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1528024733983424512

    Thomas C. Theiner
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    Let's talk artillery ammunition.

    A thread ��

    Artillery, especially rocket artillery, requires a lot of transport and logistic capacity. Good militaries plan ahead to ensure munitions flow efficiently from factory to front.

    But russia's military isn't a good military.

    First let's go back in time to WWII:

    In WWII artillery ammo came in wooden crates. Be it the US Army (color photo) or Red Army (b&w photo) - lots and lots of crates. Each crate had to be unloaded by hand, stacked by hand, loaded on trucks by hand.

    Slow, tedious work.

    And yes, you guessed that right: russian ammunition still comes in wooden crates.
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    Thomas C. Theiner
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    Now let's look at Western armies... where all artillery ammo comes on pallets.

    • projectiles - on pallets
    • charges - on pallets
    • fuzes and primers - on pallets

    because Western armies have a secret tool, the knowledge of which has never reach russia.

    That tool is the forklift.

    NATO armies: 24x projectiles on a pallet + 1x forklift
    russian army: 24x projectiles = 24 crates

    The forklift is done in a minute, the russians in 30 minutes.

    And if you're in a hurry to supply a battery - well as you can see a standard NATO truck can unload the entire ammo supply for a battery in one go and in under a minute.
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    And now they target the forklifts…..



    During this demonstration, PGK delivered 90 percent of rounds fired within five meters accuracy of the target positioned 27 kilometers from the gun position.
    https://www.defensenews.com/land/201...nds-get-smart/

    All of this gun stuff makes me even more pissed that the Zumwalts guns are deck ornaments…. It’s like the missile and aircraft whores sabotaged it hard…
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    French CEASAR truck mounted 155's active in Ukraine, I believe they are getting 12 of these.

    https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...53379624648705

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    French donated CAESAR self-propelled howitzers in Ukrainian service
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    The rockets for Russia's widely used 122mm Katyusha rocket system are issued one per wooden crate, which weighs around 220 pounds. Slinging those things around all day would definitely be an upper body workout.

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    Wow, Poland wants to buy 500 HIMARS enough to equipment 80 batteries, if this deal goes through it will make them the largest user in the world, more than the US. I believe right now they have 40. They also requested to buy 6 more Patriot batteries. What I want to know is did Putin buy a bunch of US defense industry stock on the QT before starting his Special Military Operation/

    https://www.defensenews.com/global/e...illery-forces/

    https://www.defensenews.com/global/e...united-states/

    WARSAW, Poland — As Poland is accelerating a number of acquisitions amid Russia’s invasion of its neighbor Ukraine, Polish Defence Minister Mariusz Błaszczak announced he has signed a letter of request to buy about 500 M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems, or HIMARS, from the United States.

    “We are increasing the capabilities of our rocket and artillery forces,” Błaszczak said in a tweet released by his ministry. “I have signed an LOR related to the acquisition of about 500 M142 HIMARS launchers for more than 80 batteries of the Homar system.”
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    In other news.

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    Biden administration approved sending MLRS to Ukraine,
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    citing US officials.
    https://nytimes.com/live/2022/05/27/...smid=url-share
    #ArmUkraineNow
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