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Really?
All those years of LEOs dying in a state of futility because they couldn't clear a G17 from their holster when drawing while exiting a vehicle. How many thousands had to die for want of a 19 upper on their 17 lower?
And CCW guys need LESS ammo? Because they typically work without backup, no comms and stuff like that? Nobody gives a shit about printing. I carry two spare mags on my left side, do you think I worry about printing?
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Twist my post more while you are at it…
I never said L/E died from having a 17 slide instead of a 19. But from what I’ve seen, more want a compact sized pistol. And if you are going to say that the difference matters between 17 and 19 grip… again, it isn’t as noticeable in that role. L/E used revolvers for a larger part of the last century, does that mean technology doesn’t advance because something can work?
And I also didn’t say concealed carry meant someone didn’t need more rounds. I said that you could get away with less rounds… at the added benefit of a more concealable weapon. You are going to tell me guns like the Glock 43, Shield or P365 aren’t selling and haven’t been selling for years? Yea, I must be reading that market completely wrong, but thank you for your super informative post on how everyone feels about conceal carry.
Glad you don’t care about printing, being you obviously speak for the entire gun community as a whole. But I don’t see gun companies marketing larger guns (Glock 34) for conceal carry. Nor do I see people carrying 5+” guns more often than more compact weapons. If you want to argue that… do it with someone that actually cares.
Just have to pop in here to say that needing the shorter slide while in a vehicle for maneuverability and draw speed is not going to make a difference. Theoretically could it affect draw speed, yes but no way a deciding factor. Now concerning ride height(holster selection) a shorter slide will matter for the riders comfort as the body won't push the gun/belt up when in the sitting position.
And yes I carried for 30+ years while in a bumper car so I do know a little. Also, in my opinion--if you are needing to nitpick draw speed then you should pull your head clear because your situational awareness is severely lacking.
Draw and reload speed-let me go jack in a corner---
GET IN YOUR BUBBLE!
QFT. I carried my issued big ass gen2 G21 for years in a cramped patrol car and survived in spite of it’s size. And, yes Glock is just trying to keep enthusiasts excited with all these minor changes that aren’t really anything ground breaking or exciting IMHO. But maybe it’s just me. Back when the single stack came out G48 or G45 or whatever as I’ve lost track my first impression was “well ok, but I like more bullets in a CC handgun as I am all by my lonesome” but to each his own. What made the G26/G27/G29/G30 groundbreaking at the time was that Glock developed the smallest package possible to carry the federally mandated 10 rounds yet you could still shove a pre-ban standard capacity magazine in it.
Last edited by flenna; 05-14-22 at 07:28.
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I say with all the Glock variations available, especially with the 9mm caliber, to let the employee have more choice in the matter.
While in my career, I was happy to be able to switch to my personally-owned Glock 22 gen2 with one department, then being issued and mandated to use the G22gen3, then G17gen4, before retiring from a different local department; in retrospect, allowing the employees to choose would have been even better. Perhaps allowing the G34, G17, and G19 models (whichever gen at the time) would have been ideal.
It's my understanding, even though U.S. CBP chose the G47, G19, and G26, its employees have little/no choice as to what handgun is issued/mandated for use. (I do love the G19 models in my personal/retired life, btw.)
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Serving as a LEO since 1999.
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Armorer for AR15, 1911, Glocks and Remington 870 shotguns.
I found ONE Glock that will outperform my 17 and 19, it is the 34. I have shot my 17 against my 19 and the differences in performance are negligible and well within the confines of human error. If I feel like I want more ammo, I carry the 17, if I want to be a little more low profile I carry the 19. But honestly the 19 seems to best balance in my hand so more often than not I carry the 19.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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