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    Quote Originally Posted by crosseyedshooter View Post
    I’m getting so confused by all of this; for the longest time, a full-size slide with compact grip was supposed to be the cat’s meow, but very few manufacturers did it. Then Glock comes out with the opposite, a compact slide with full-size grip in the 19x/45 and everyone went nuts over it. Now they’re doing the first configuration. So, which one is Perfection?
    The 19. If you can't get it done with a 19, no combination of 17/19 or 19/17 is gonna save your bacon. This is so much four sizes of custom adjustable grip straps and panels and 8 position adjustable buttstocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwball View Post
    Different roles…

    L/E, 99 times out of 100, you want more rounds and a shorter barrel. More rounds is self explanatory, but the shorter barrel makes clearing the holster easier… especially in a vehicle or other tight space.

    Concealed carry, you can get away with less ammo… but people tend to want accuracy. IWB, you can deal with a longer barrel, but the grip is what’s going to print.

    Going with the shorter dust cover, and making options like the 45 and 49 is definitely something better for buyers. Is it as simple as SIG with a chassis? No, but it is as good as Glock can do within their design constraints/not wanting to redesign.

    No chance in hell, but I’d like to see a 26 grip on this new rail design 19/45/47/49. 17 or 19 length… same model number with a letter suffix after.
    Really?

    All those years of LEOs dying in a state of futility because they couldn't clear a G17 from their holster when drawing while exiting a vehicle. How many thousands had to die for want of a 19 upper on their 17 lower?

    And CCW guys need LESS ammo? Because they typically work without backup, no comms and stuff like that? Nobody gives a shit about printing. I carry two spare mags on my left side, do you think I worry about printing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Really?
    Twist my post more while you are at itÖ

    I never said L/E died from having a 17 slide instead of a 19. But from what Iíve seen, more want a compact sized pistol. And if you are going to say that the difference matters between 17 and 19 gripÖ again, it isnít as noticeable in that role. L/E used revolvers for a larger part of the last century, does that mean technology doesnít advance because something can work?

    And I also didnít say concealed carry meant someone didnít need more rounds. I said that you could get away with less roundsÖ at the added benefit of a more concealable weapon. You are going to tell me guns like the Glock 43, Shield or P365 arenít selling and havenít been selling for years? Yea, I must be reading that market completely wrong, but thank you for your super informative post on how everyone feels about conceal carry.

    Glad you donít care about printing, being you obviously speak for the entire gun community as a whole. But I donít see gun companies marketing larger guns (Glock 34) for conceal carry. Nor do I see people carrying 5+Ē guns more often than more compact weapons. If you want to argue thatÖ do it with someone that actually cares.

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    Just have to pop in here to say that needing the shorter slide while in a vehicle for maneuverability and draw speed is not going to make a difference. Theoretically could it affect draw speed, yes but no way a deciding factor. Now concerning ride height(holster selection) a shorter slide will matter for the riders comfort as the body won't push the gun/belt up when in the sitting position.

    And yes I carried for 30+ years while in a bumper car so I do know a little. Also, in my opinion--if you are needing to nitpick draw speed then you should pull your head clear because your situational awareness is severely lacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Really?

    All those years of LEOs dying in a state of futility because they couldn't clear a G17 from their holster when drawing while exiting a vehicle. How many thousands had to die for want of a 19 upper on their 17 lower?

    And CCW guys need LESS ammo? Because they typically work without backup, no comms and stuff like that? Nobody gives a shit about printing. I carry two spare mags on my left side, do you think I worry about printing?
    QFT. I carried my issued big ass gen2 G21 for years in a cramped patrol car and survived in spite of it’s size. And, yes Glock is just trying to keep enthusiasts excited with all these minor changes that aren’t really anything ground breaking or exciting IMHO. But maybe it’s just me. Back when the single stack came out G48 or G45 or whatever as I’ve lost track my first impression was “well ok, but I like more bullets in a CC handgun as I am all by my lonesome” but to each his own. What made the G26/G27/G29/G30 groundbreaking at the time was that Glock developed the smallest package possible to carry the federally mandated 10 rounds yet you could still shove a pre-ban standard capacity magazine in it.
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    I say with all the Glock variations available, especially with the 9mm caliber, to let the employee have more choice in the matter.
    While in my career, I was happy to be able to switch to my personally-owned Glock 22 gen2 with one department, then being issued and mandated to use the G22gen3, then G17gen4, before retiring from a different local department; in retrospect, allowing the employees to choose would have been even better. Perhaps allowing the G34, G17, and G19 models (whichever gen at the time) would have been ideal.

    It's my understanding, even though U.S. CBP chose the G47, G19, and G26, its employees have little/no choice as to what handgun is issued/mandated for use. (I do love the G19 models in my personal/retired life, btw.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwball View Post
    Twist my post more while you are at it…
    So for starters, those were all questions, hence the (?) at the end. They were questions because I was wanting to make sure that was what you were advocating. Hard to twist things when you are asking "are you sure this is what you mean?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by L-2 View Post
    I say with all the Glock variations available, especially with the 9mm caliber, to let the employee have more choice in the matter.
    While in my career, I was happy to be able to switch to my personally-owned Glock 22 gen2 with one department, then being issued and mandated to use the G22gen3, then G17gen4, before retiring from a different local department; in retrospect, allowing the employees to choose would have been even better. Perhaps allowing the G34, G17, and G19 models (whichever gen at the time) would have been ideal.

    It's my understanding, even though U.S. CBP chose the G47, G19, and G26, its employees have little/no choice as to what handgun is issued/mandated for use. (I do love the G19 models in my personal/retired life, btw.)
    Border Patrol Agents were given the choice between the 47 and the 19. OFO outside of their special teams only the 19. The 26 is available for a variety of agents/officers (FI's, Intel, plainclothes etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17K View Post
    The whole reason a 17 shoots better than the 19 is because of the longer recoil spring.

    Think carbine vs A5. That thing is the pistol equivalent of a 16Ē carbine gassed upper on a carbine sprung lower.
    Who said it shoots better. Many fans of the G45 would disagree with you. I own the 17, G45 and 19 and all shoot very well. Very hard to tell a difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    Who said it shoots better. Many fans of the G45 would disagree with you. I own the 17, G45 and 19 and all shoot very well. Very hard to tell a difference
    I found ONE Glock that will outperform my 17 and 19, it is the 34. I have shot my 17 against my 19 and the differences in performance are negligible and well within the confines of human error. If I feel like I want more ammo, I carry the 17, if I want to be a little more low profile I carry the 19. But honestly the 19 seems to best balance in my hand so more often than not I carry the 19.
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