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    Quote Originally Posted by TexHill View Post
    Doing any of the above is illegal and not protected by the 2nd Amendment. The 2nd Amendment is not an excuse to intimidate fellow citizens. It's a protection against government over reach.

    As far as you, I, or anyone else not liking open carry inside city limits goes: tough shit. As outlined by DC vs Heller, my rights don't stop at the city limits sign. Rights are not defined by feelings. If they were then we wouldn't have any rights.
    When the cops and DA's don't prosecute these people because they are commie POCs, then they too become part of the problem. And people wonder why there is erosion for support. Of course, this is the benefit of what the progressive want, no support, and inactivity on the part of local LEOs, set up the Federal LEOs under control of the FEDS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    If it's so easy to remove that BS from schools, why not just stop having people LIKE communism. Tell them it's bad.

    There problem solved. I'll make sure and tell everyone I see "communism is bad."

    Got any more overly simplistic solutions to problems you will never resolve?
    Simple doesn't always mean easy.

    I guess it can be depending on your location or community or how much power you have.

    Trump almost had it:


    Trump Announces 'Patriotic Education' Commission

    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/17/91412...political-move

    Trump Expands Ban On Racial Sensitivity Training To Federal Contractors
    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/22/91584...al-contractors


    Parents will also have to get together and make sure it's not being taught in their kid's school.

    Woke Elementary
    https://www.city-journal.org/identit...mentary-school
    One parent told me that critical race theory was reminiscent of the Chinese Cultural Revolution.

    At Meyerholz Elementary, the Asian-American families are on high alert for critical race theory in the classroom. Since their initial victory, they have begun to consider campaigning against the school board. “We think some of our school board members are [critical race theory] activists and they must go,” said one parent. The capture of our public institutions by progressives obsessed by race and privilege deserves opposition at every level. The parents of Cupertino have joined the fight.

    Critical Race Theory Should Be Banned, And A Black Parent Explains Why
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...t-explains-why

    Black Pastor against CRT: https://video.foxnews.com/v/6260259719001#sp=show-clips

    Communist news network pushes the Marxist narrative that it's only white people against CRT.
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/08/polit...ter/index.html

    Watch Black Father Blast Critical Race Theory At Board Meeting In Viral Video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m66rcHzWaPU

    Mom who survived Mao's cultural revolution rips school for critical race theory
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZwli4WdZmI

    'Life, Liberty & Levin' on Marxism in America, critical race theory infiltrating military
    https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/l...ating-military

    "Critical race theory is not about learning the history of America. It's not about learning slavery and segregation. It's not about learning about neo- Nazis and the Klan. It's about a Marxist movement invented by Marxists -- Herbert Marcuse, Derrick Bell, and many, many others, and it attracts the Marxists like Black Lives Matter founders, two of three who have already said that they are Marxists, and that's not a coincidence, because this was hatched by professors as a way to attack the society from a Marxist perspective."


    The contaminated Liberals are in panic mode because if they can't control the narrative they can't control the population:

    Biden's 'Ministry Of Truth' Tsar: Parents Concerned About Critical Race Theory Are "Disinformers"
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...e-disinformers

    Leftists Hate Free Speech Because They Fear Dissent, Not "Disinformation"

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...disinformation

    "Moderates and “normies” along with people like Bill Maher and Russell Brand are FINALLY starting to realize how bag-lady-crazy leftists are and the pendulum is swinging back slightly. But, it was conservatives that were calling out the social justice cult and their highway to hell for years."

    "Leftists operate from a collectivist mentality and this makes them believe that society is a singular entity that needs to be managed and manipulated to achieve a desired outcome."

    "Most people reading this know by now that this is a war. It’s not a political debate that requires give-and-take, but a full-bore winner-take-all conflict."

    https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-...eaders-2020-10

    AOC says if Biden is elected he should appoint progressive leaders when asked if Bernie Sanders should get cabinet position

    "I believe that it's critically important that the Biden administration appoint progressive leaders, " Ocasio-Cortez said.

    "This isn't just about the progressive movement," Ocasio-Cortez continued. "This is about making sure we're not just going back to how things were and rewinding the tape before the Trump administration, but this is about making sure how are we going to not just make up for lost time but leap into the future

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward
    "Chairman Mao Zedong launched the campaign to reconstruct the country from an agrarian economy into a communist society through the formation of people's communes."

    Jordan Peterson is trying to reach out to younger generations:

    "Well, that wasn't real Marxism" Jordan Peterson on Communists vs Intellectuals
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDTbNmUgeXk

    Jordan Peterson: Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn and The Gulag Archipelago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rTBRT-RD4U


    You won't see results anytime soon. This takes decades to reverse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ddbtoth View Post
    When the cops and DA's don't prosecute these people because they are commie POCs, then they too become part of the problem.
    They will, however, fully prosecute anyone who stands up to these lunatics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    They will, however, fully prosecute anyone who stands up to these lunatics.
    vig·i·lan·te

    Its a long past time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    They will, however, fully prosecute anyone who stands up to these lunatics.
    Count on that.
    A true "Gun Guy" (or gal) should have familiarity and a modicum of proficiency with most all firearms platforms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaijin View Post
    Count on that.
    They will until about a half a dozen more Rittenhouses... then they'll start to do it another way, probably. Jury nullification is a real thing.
    "It is only the warrior who chooses pacifism. All others are condemned to it."

    "Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem."
    Dangerous Freedom over Peaceful Slavery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanner View Post
    Open carry ..... I would avoid it, to each his own. If I were a criminal and wanted a firearm, an open carry due would get distracted, stabbed in the neck, and relieved of his firearm.
    It seems there was recent evidence of this not being the case. Two dead guys plus one other that ain't gonna be opening pickle jars for himself anytime in the foreseeable future. Happened way up north somewhere in a city full of communist miscreants.
    ~Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoboTBL View Post
    It seems there was recent evidence of this not being the case. Two dead guys plus one other that ain't gonna be opening pickle jars for himself anytime in the foreseeable future. Happened way up north somewhere in a city full of communist miscreants.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=man+...hrome&ie=UTF-8

    Page after page of people open carrying having their gun taken from the holster. If you have the option, IWB.

    Dude's just out there working on his car...bad guy sneaks up on him. I suppose a good retention holster could have solved the issue, but why, why bring the attention?

    https://www.kansas.com/news/local/cr...227182399.html

    With that being said, I'm all for open carry; not my business if you want to. I won't.

    I've personally had unwanted attention while open carrying before I had my CCW when I was 21; literally, just in the few months of getting my first pistol, open carrying before I rec'd my CCW, I had some interactions in public that were not comfortable. Maybe it was because I was 5'9 130lbs carrying a giant 1911, lol. (If no CCW, you could only open carry..strange law that was)

    My state did go constitutional carry a few years ago, so that's nice.
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    Communist cultural engineering hard at work.

    They'll slowly chip away at you, like they did in Canada:

    "C-68 has little to do with gun control or crime control, but it is the first step necessary to begin the social re-engineering of Canada. "— Liberal senator Sharon Carstairs, 1996.

    Quote Originally Posted by OutofBatt3ry View Post
    https://www.google.com/search?q=man+...hrome&ie=UTF-8

    Page after page of people open carrying having their gun taken from the holster. If you have the option, IWB.

    Dude's just out there working on his car...bad guy sneaks up on him. I suppose a good retention holster could have solved the issue, but why, why bring the attention?

    https://www.kansas.com/news/local/cr...227182399.html

    With that being said, I'm all for open carry; not my business if you want to. I won't.

    I've personally had unwanted attention while open carrying before I had my CCW when I was 21; literally, just in the few months of getting my first pistol, open carrying before I rec'd my CCW, I had some interactions in public that were not comfortable. (If no CCW, you could only open carry..strange law that was)

    My state did go constitutional carry a few years ago, so that's nice.
    I read a few and all the thieves were quickly caught.

    Teen arrested after video shows him steal gun from man working on car
    https://www.kwch.com/content/news/WP...506769681.html

    The Wichita Police Department arrests a 14-year-old boy for aggravated assault after surveillance footage from Feb. 14 shows the teen steal a gun from a man working on a car in the 800 block of N. Chautauqua in north Wichita.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutofBatt3ry View Post

    Page after page of people open carrying having their gun taken from the holster. If you have the option, IWB.
    So again, there are pros and cons for every form of carry. IF you are going to open carry, you better bring with it the requisite level of situational awareness and weapon retention skills. If somebody is capable of taking a wallet without it being seen, there are people who will go for your gun. And they don't need to be slick, they only need to catch you off guard for a moment and overpower you.

    Open carry both deters and attracts criminals, it is the person and not the firearm that puts them into one or the other category. I'm pretty confident that TWICE in my 20 something years of carrying in Florida, which included a lot of "visible" carry, I had people who were in the process of making the "attempt" but something deterred them. Might as been as simple as the fact that I started tracking them early on, maybe they just decided I didn't seem like a suitable victim.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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