Supermarket shooting 10 fatalities Buffalo, New York

**SteyrAUG** · 05-17-22, 18:09

Originally Posted by Business_Casual

I said “term” not “word”

He didn't do that either because...

A "term" is a "word or phrase" used to describe a thing or to express a concept, especially in a particular kind of language or branch of study.

Richard Henry Pratt usage in 1902 would qualify as a term as well as a word. But that isn't as click bait as usage by Trotsky almost 20 years later. But more importantly, during that 20 year interim, the word, phrase and term would have been used frequently.

**Biggy** · 05-17-22, 18:46

And yet black on black gun murders in **just** the city of Chicago averages around 10 or more every week, and it has been going on like that for decades and decades. The fake news media, the extreme Democrat Communist Party and the terrorist group Black Lives Matter could give a rat’s ass about those black on black murders. That’s called a clue.

**markm** · 05-17-22, 20:33

Just saw the first person video of this from the shooter. Absolutely horrifying and a good reminder of how important it is to carry and don't hesitate a fraction of a second when something like this begins.

**Wake27** · 05-17-22, 22:07

Originally Posted by markm

Just saw the first person video of this from the shooter. Absolutely horrifying and a good reminder of how important it is to carry and don't hesitate a fraction of a second when something like this begins.

Yeah, it was fast and as soon as he got out of the car, he was emptying rounds into people.

I will say for anyone that doesn't want to watch (it's pretty bad), the only thing I could take from it was the speed of violence and the fact that he was wearing everything (to include helmet) for several minutes while driving. Aside from the repeated recons of the place, that was the best indicator - if you're driving and see some dude wearing full kit (helmet, BDUs, eye pro, and I think even electronic ear pro) in a car in the middle of town, pretty strong red flag.

Just for everyone in this thread, lets acknowledge that both the violence in Chicago and this is bad. Honestly when it comes to the Chicago stuff, at least the target is usually other gang members so that's not quite as bad. This was just ****ed and like I said on page one, he needs to die quickly. Its atrocious that our justice system would ever let him stay alive. That is more easily fixed than gangs committing violence against each other and seems a better use of time to address.

**SteyrAUG** · 05-17-22, 22:50

Originally Posted by Wake27

Yeah, it was fast and as soon as he got out of the car, he was emptying rounds into people.

I will say for anyone that doesn't want to watch (it's pretty bad), the only thing I could take from it was the speed of violence and the fact that he was wearing everything (to include helmet) for several minutes while driving. Aside from the repeated recons of the place, that was the best indicator - if you're driving and see some dude wearing full kit (helmet, BDUs, eye pro, and I think even electronic ear pro) in a car in the middle of town, pretty strong red flag.

Just for everyone in this thread, lets acknowledge that both the violence in Chicago and this is bad. Honestly when it comes to the Chicago stuff, at least the target is usually other gang members so that's not quite as bad. This was just ****ed and like I said on page one, he needs to die quickly. Its atrocious that our justice system would ever let him stay alive. That is more easily fixed than gangs committing violence against each other and seems a better use of time to address.

I'm hesitant to suggest something stupid like "video games" are to blame, but it's shocking how many of these losers are living out their "live action first person shooter" fantasy.

This is also one of the best examples of a "shit situation" where if you are lucky, you aren't one of the first 5 people who have already been shot before anyone figures out what is going on. I don't care how switched on a person may be, if a person is patient and has a little bit of practice, they can ambush just about anyone.

Look back to the Reagan shooting, the secret service at that time was pretty on point and JFK wasn't yet ancient history and they still got blind sided hard.

Waiting for details concerning if this guy was previously investigated or otherwise being treated for violent tendencies but still left on the street because he was in treatment or whatever. Very few of these guys can resist living out their fantasies online before proceeding to real life applications. I'd be amazed if he didn't throw a bunch of warning "red flags."

**Wake27** · 05-17-22, 23:41

Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

I'm hesitant to suggest something stupid like "video games" are to blame, but it's shocking how many of these losers are living out their "live action first person shooter" fantasy.

This is also one of the best examples of a "shit situation" where if you are lucky, you aren't one of the first 5 people who have already been shot before anyone figures out what is going on. I don't care how switched on a person may be, if a person is patient and has a little bit of practice, they can ambush just about anyone.

Look back to the Reagan shooting, the secret service at that time was pretty on point and JFK wasn't yet ancient history and they still got blind sided hard.

Waiting for details concerning if this guy was previously investigated or otherwise being treated for violent tendencies but still left on the street because he was in treatment or whatever. Very few of these guys can resist living out their fantasies online before proceeding to real life applications. I'd be amazed if he didn't throw a bunch of warning "red flags."

It has been reported that he popped up a year or two ago for making a murder suicide threat or reference of some type but doesn’t sound like there was much to it. In his manifesto, he stated that video games didn’t have anything to do with it but that is taking his word for it. 4chan gets a lot of his credit.

There were two that basically had no chance. First one was feet away from him when he drew the rifle and probably got shot in the head from the way she collapsed. Second one was immediately after and took several rounds. Then there was a break as he sent a few rounds through the windows and walked inside, but we’re talking a few seconds. The first five or so people that he killed happened in less than a minute I think, and then the video was cut.

Legitimately helpless people caught entirely off guard getting murdered.

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**Business_Casual** · 05-18-22, 08:35

Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

He didn't do that either because...

A "term" is a "word or phrase" used to describe a thing or to express a concept, especially in a particular kind of language or branch of study.

Richard Henry Pratt usage in 1902 would qualify as a term as well as a word. But that isn't as click bait as usage by Trotsky almost 20 years later. But more importantly, during that 20 year interim, the word, phrase and term would have been used frequently.

Is your contention that International Socialists did not intend to divide the US along racial lines as part of a strategy to weaken it, or is being pedantic your goal?