Self Defense Ammunition question

[Eurodriver]

Yeah, that's what I thought with regards to auto glass. Now for shooting uphill/downhill......rule of thumb is to aim low for either situation, correct?

Sort of...you aim low when the dope for your line of sight distance is greater than the dope for your horizontal distance. This is always going to be the case on an angled shot, but there is a point to be made that it has nothing to do with gravity/elevation changes.

Let's assume you are 300y above your target, and your range finder (line of sight) says you are 1000 yards away. My dope for 1000 yards is 7.0 mils, but I'm not really shooting 1000 yards.

The actual horizontal distance is (C^2 = A^2 + B^2) or, 1,000,000 = 90,000 + B^2.

910,000 = B^2

953 yards = B is my true horizontal distance. If I were to fire 7.0 mils my round would fly way over the target, so I'd have to aim low (but really, I prefer to think of it as holding/dialing the correct amount of elevation for the true distance)

Or you can just buy a LRF that gives you the Horizontal distance via a calculator and not do any math

[Entryteam]

Sort of...you aim low when the dope for your line of sight distance is greater than the dope for your horizontal distance. This is always going to be the case on an angled shot, but there is a point to be made that it has nothing to do with gravity/elevation changes.

Let's assume you are 300y above your target, and your range finder (line of sight) says you are 1000 yards away. My dope for 1000 yards is 7.0 mils, but I'm not really shooting 1000 yards.

The actual horizontal distance is (C^2 = A^2 + B^2) or, 1,000,000 = 90,000 + B^2.

910,000 = B^2

953 yards = B is my true horizontal distance. If I were to fire 7.0 mils my round would fly way over the target, so I'd have to aim low (but really, I prefer to think of it as holding/dialing the correct amount of elevation for the true distance)

Or you can just buy a LRF that gives you the Horizontal distance via a calculator and not do any math

See... I spent 10 years on SWAT. I did EVERY job on the Team... except friggin sniper. Know why? Cause when the sniper nerds start talking about this shit.. .my eyes glaze over. Just send me in point, dude. lol

[markm]

See... I spent 10 years on SWAT. I did EVERY job on the Team... except friggin sniper. Know why? Cause when the sniper nerds start talking about this shit.. .my eyes glaze over. Just send me in point, dude. lol

Holy f#*k! We shot next to Mesa, AZ (I think) SWAT/snipers on the High Power range here a few years back. It was just like you say. And they were there before we got there, and still going at it when we left.

[Entryteam]

Holy f#*k! We shot next to Mesa, AZ (I think) SWAT/snipers on the High Power range here a few years back. It was just like you say. And they were there before we got there, and still going at it when we left.

Yep. Our in house Sniper school is 110 hours in 9 days, roughly.

[markm]

I could overhear the conversation. And even getting to shoot company ammo all day, I'd have to pass on that chance too.

[Entryteam]

I could overhear the conversation. And even getting to shoot company ammo all day, I'd have to pass on that chance too.

agreed. *raises hand* I'll just go on point!

[ubet]

Sort of...you aim low when the dope for your line of sight distance is greater than the dope for your horizontal distance. This is always going to be the case on an angled shot, but there is a point to be made that it has nothing to do with gravity/elevation changes.

Let's assume you are 300y above your target, and your range finder (line of sight) says you are 1000 yards away. My dope for 1000 yards is 7.0 mils, but I'm not really shooting 1000 yards.

The actual horizontal distance is (C^2 = A^2 + B^2) or, 1,000,000 = 90,000 + B^2.

910,000 = B^2

953 yards = B is my true horizontal distance. If I were to fire 7.0 mils my round would fly way over the target, so I'd have to aim low (but really, I prefer to think of it as holding/dialing the correct amount of elevation for the true distance)

Or you can just buy a LRF that gives you the Horizontal distance via a calculator and not do any math

It’s amazing what lrf and applied ballistics app will do for you.


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[Stickman]

agreed. *raises hand* I'll just go on point!

Point man is never wrong!

[yoni]

The moon is up and the sky if full of stars. We sit in a room, having been briefed on that night's hit. We know the town, we know the street, we have done many things before this night on the location.

Cups of turkish coffee are finished, a few cups have cigarette butts doing the back stroke through the coffee grounds.

The door opens and in walks our commander, he tells us to gather round, as we form up around him he pulls something from his pocket. A box of 5.56 ammo we had never seen before. He then tells us it is a super duper wiz bang that will make terrorist vaporize and you don't need a suppressor since this stuff is so cool it makes no sound.

Nope that never happened, we took the ammo IMI produced and shot the terrorist into the ground, and then put a round in his head to verify it.

Some day I wonder if we have too many choices in the USA?

[Diamondback]

I'd humbly venture that the problem is Barnum's Law... too many suckers just waiting for some snake-oil salesman to fleece them with the right silver-tongued buzzwords, creating a lucrative market akin to Old West patent medicines.