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Thread: Close Range Training--Steel and Frangible, or Paper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    How close is "close range"???
    ^^^This. I'll paper at 3 feet steel not so much. Short answer, I use both steel and paper depending on what I'm doing, sometime together and I don't use frangible ammo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titsonritz View Post
    and I don't use frangible ammo.
    They had the good ones at Sportmans Warehouse last month. Federal made with the partial jacket. But they're really too expensive for close up stuff. Anything over a buck per round has to be shot at 300 yards or more in my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    But they're really too expensive for close up stuff.
    And that is why I don't use it, the shit is expensive enough with looking for ways to make it more so.
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    I've been hit in the legs with ricochets (45 acp), and I thought I had been shot. I would encourage you to wear your armor and really good safety glasses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    I've been hit in the legs with ricochets (45 acp), and I thought I had been shot. I would encourage you to wear your armor and really good safety glasses.
    Interesting enough I have found a lot of .45 acp 230 grain hardball bullets intact on the ground underneath steel plates. They looked good enough to reload and shoot again.
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    Norma has a sale on frangible, about $.48/round.

    https://normashooting.com/shop/calib...ngible-qty-50/
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    Quote Originally Posted by flenna View Post
    Norma has a sale on frangible, about $.48/round.

    https://normashooting.com/shop/calib...ngible-qty-50/
    Damn. $0.48 per round to ruin your barrel? I'd pay the dollar per round to get good frangibles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Damn. $0.48 per round to ruin your barrel? I'd pay the dollar per round to get good frangibles.
    Hmm, ok. Care to explain? I don’t have experience with this particular ammo but would like to learn before I buy any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flenna View Post
    Hmm, ok. Care to explain? I don’t have experience with this particular ammo but would like to learn before I buy any.
    Yeah. Those compressed copper powder/whatever bullets that don't have a jacket disintegrate and bead blast your throat, barrel and suppressor baffles if shooting suppressed.

    The good stuff in the Federal boxes/NT marked, etc. will have a jacket to keep the frangible material intact when the bullet is fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Yeah. Those compressed copper powder/whatever bullets that don't have a jacket disintegrate and bead blast your throat, barrel and suppressor baffles if shooting suppressed.

    The good stuff in the Federal boxes/NT marked, etc. will have a jacket to keep the frangible material intact when the bullet is fired.
    Gotcha, thanks.
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