Opinion - "Police Militarization Gave Us Uvalde"

[TomMcC]

If I were running things, I'd hire Yoni as my school security consultant!

So, these guys did sign up for a firefight, or are they committing suicide too? Since what he said is never going to happen here, at least until the schools are run by more conservative folks that are willing to get violent, there really isn't a solution, is there?

If only someone was brave enough to engage...if only.

Maybe we should arm the kids, since nobody else is going to do anything.

[Univibe]

So, these guys did sign up for a firefight, or are they committing suicide too? Since what he said is never going to happen here, at least until the schools are run by more conservative folks that are willing to get violent, there really isn't a solution, is there?

If only someone was brave enough to engage...if only.

Maybe we should arm the kids, since nobody else is going to do anything.

Some left-winger sardonically suggested just that!

More seriously, there's no way to know whether hiring combat veterans to protect schools would have any better outcome. I pack every day. Do I know what I would do if a mass shooting unfolded in front of me in the grocery store? Would I step up and take my chances to stop it, or would I hide behind a roll of paper towels? We all think we'd be johnny on the spot, but who knows what we'd do?

[TexHill]

Me thinks OP maybe didn't get enough sleep or hasn't taken his meds, because agreeing with that stupid article, no matter what side of the aisle you are on, is mental gymnastics.

Cops who are super militarized and super aggressive, ok. That leads to cops being too afraid to go in and deal with a problem? What?

You're missing the point of the article. What he is saying is that we have given the police military gear and quasi military training which the police should not receive. This equipment and "training" causes two issues: 1) officers can start to look at the public as the enemy instead of citizens with the same rights that the officer has, 2) the quasi military training doesn't truly prepare officers for events like Uvalde. As a society we want our police to react to these events like they're Delta Force, but frankly they're not Delta Force, never will be Delta Force, and we should stop giving the police the impression that they are.

[titsonritz]

The cops you know should quit and go work at Starbucks with all the other vegan women.

No shit. Obviously, Uvalde and Parkland prove cops like that exist but I don't know any, then again the cops I know are from the training world and have already demonstrated otherwise.

[yoni]

If I were running things, I'd hire Yoni as my school security consultant!

I am currently upgrading several school districts, while I wait for international business to come back post covid.

[eric0311]

No… the author is a complete f*cking idiot…. Nobody expects cops to be CAG/DEVGRU etc…. We expect them to have the necessary training and equipment to forcibly enter a structure, and neutralize a deadly threat that is/was committing mass murder. This turd author is failing to understand that if it wasn’t for the excruciating number of violent assaults on law enforcement, involving superior weaponry and tactics, dating back to the 20’s and 30’s… they would’ve have a NEED for said “military” style weaponry/equipment.

[yoni]

We don't need tier 1 operators at the schools. What we need are people that have been tested in dangerous environments, in this case infantry or better vets of the GWOT that have gone down range.

Bad guy shows up and is engaged with accurate rifle fire.

School shootings are done forever

[Univibe]

Here's a question for you Lawmen. I promise I'm not "trolling" here; I really want to know this.

Let's say I'm a patrolman. I respond to a school shooting. I'm outside the building; shooting inside can be heard.

Supervising officer, Sergeant or Lieutenant or somebody in higher authority arrives. He orders me to draw my pistol and run into the building. I refuse, saying I'm not equipped and don't want to get shot.

It's possible I could get a reprimand out of this. If I do, would the Union back me up? What do y'all think would happen in this scenario?

[eric0311]

Here again I have to disagree. Rushing into these situations is simply not what police agreed to do. (Or so the ones I know tell me). They signed up to do police work, e.g. arrest suspects, investigate crimes, patrol streets. Not to engage in spec-ops small unit actions against mass shooters. The fact that the Uvalde scenario has repeated itself many times in history is itself some proof that we are expecting policemen to do things they did not sign up for.

You couldn’t be anymore wrong with that statement. Dude… this is the 21st century… unless you’ve been living under a rock, THEY know exactly what they could be asked to do…. Including responding to active shooters.

[titsonritz]

I am currently upgrading several school districts, while I wait for international business to come back post covid.

People in the business have been trying to get school districts on board with real solutions for years, few have listened and even fewer have acted. Maybe this time it will be different.

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