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Thread: If SCOTUS is ruling on NYSPA v Bruen it’ll happen this Tuesday or Thursday.

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    I expect Roberts to try some shenanigans even WITH Thomas still there. RINO Suckweasel gonna RINO Suckweasel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    I expect Roberts to try some shenanigans even WITH Thomas still there. RINO Suckweasel gonna RINO Suckweasel.
    What??

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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    Well, I'd rather them have just decide them, but like children, they have scolded them for their false God of two-part test and are now going to see if they have learned it.
    My thought is that it actually gives citizens, at least in those circuits, the potential opportunity to have their rights back sooner, should the case be decided in favor of striking down the bans. Three things can happen from here: 1) The courts uphold the bans and the cases are brought back to the SCOTUS and are likely overturned, 2) The courts overturn the bans and the states appeal, bringing the case back to the SCOTUS 3) the courts overturn the ban and the states decide not to fight it. However, as these decisions would contradict other circuit court decisions upholding bans, this would, once again, force another SC showdown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by themonk View Post
    What??
    To get a Majority, Thomas and Alito need all three of the Trump Judges. Kav has a history of frequently needing to liplock Roberts's worthless ass, so between the puppet and the puppetmaster that's all it takes to flip what should be a slam dunk for us the wrong way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    My thought is that it actually gives citizens, at least in those circuits, the potential opportunity to have their rights back sooner, should the case be decided in favor of striking down the bans. Three things can happen from here: 1) The courts uphold the bans and the cases are brought back to the SCOTUS and are likely overturned, 2) The courts overturn the bans and the states appeal, bringing the case back to the SCOTUS 3) the courts overturn the ban and the states decide not to fight it. However, as these decisions would contradict other circuit court decisions upholding bans, this would, once again, force another SC showdown.
    Reading Thomas's opinion, it reads like he relished this fight and is eager for more--even to the point of providing a suggested framework for followup actions right in the opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Reading Thomas's opinion, it reads like he relished this fight and is eager for more--even to the point of providing a suggested framework for followup actions right in the opinion.
    The originalists on the Court have had just about enough of this "living document" shit and all the loopholes that the government has been using to get around the Constitution for...well, most of the existence of the country. The Courts have been activist pretty much since the last of the Founding Fathers died, and quite a bit before that too. We've finally got a court that is telling the rest of the government that they need to stick to the original intent of the document, and if they want to enact the laws they want, they need to go through the proper channels and procedures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by themonk View Post
    It will happen very quick.
    I don't see the 9th going hard and fast at this stuff, they have to know that they'll lose and their only hope is to keep playing shell games like the use of 'moral clause' for CCW out in CA. Imagine if you had to have a inherently subjective morals investigation to vote or practice religion...

    So, for the 9th, they need to re-hear it. Does that mean en blanc from the start. OR do we start that over with regular hearings that will then go to en blanc?
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    I don't see the 9th going hard and fast at this stuff, they have to know that they'll lose and their only hope is to keep playing shell games like the use of 'moral clause' for CCW out in CA. Imagine if you had to have a inherently subjective morals investigation to vote or practice religion...

    So, for the 9th, they need to re-hear it. Does that mean en blanc from the start. OR do we start that over with regular hearings that will then go to en blanc?
    I believe it means they just redo the decision with this new guidance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rero360 View Post
    I believe it means they just redo the decision with this new guidance.
    And the cynic in me expects them to try some cutesy new weasel play, because these people Just. Do. Not. Give. Up. EVER.
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