Quote Originally Posted by The Dumb Gun Collector View Post
Well that isn't much of an claim. You are saying "if the present course continues." Which is a pretty big escape hatch.There is very little likelihood the Russians will get what they originally wanted.

But realistically, this will likely grind to a halt with the parties being close to the original borders. This whole project will end as an incredible boondoggle for the Russians.
To be fair, “close to the original borders” is also an escape hatch for you. What is close?

FWIW, I won’t bother to try and define what will be used to measure victory, but I do think Russia will be closer to that than Ukraine whenever this is over.


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