That is not supported by the evidence, and that rnd, sure as hell didn't fail however, unless you consider 16" penetration, full expansion, and 100% weight retention, a failure...
Again, my only real concern in this issue, is if there's added hydrostatic wounding mechanisms involved also. That's a legit aspect of the discussion.
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“Those who do not view armed self defense as a basic human right, ignore the mass graves of those who died on their knees at the hands of tyrants.”
I don't know anything about them, but I do know SWAT teams range considerably from legit HSLD types, to little more than wanna be ninjas in cool gear. Not my lane, but I'd question the value and utility of 7.5" vs 10-12" for a LE tac team, and I do know there's various now running 7.5" in addition to who you mentioned. Their recs, wants, etc differ from mine obviously.
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“Those who do not view armed self defense as a basic human right, ignore the mass graves of those who died on their knees at the hands of tyrants.”
That is false, as all metrics supplied demonstrates, and now we are into cognitive dissonance by smart people who should know better. Was truer in the past, things change, and did. Such a gun is superior to any handgun, and pistol carbine, and any PDW I can think of, warts and all.
You're simply incorrect on that, as is anyone claiming same. I supplied the evidence, no one countered it with any convincing evidence, and no one will. Per above, I'm open to learning from anyone who can supply metrics/data/sources that counter what I said, but "just cuz" and being talked down by some, ya, no.
I will continue to research the only relevant issue this topic as it applies to me, and that's cavitational wounding mechanisms that make rifle rnds that much superior to handguns.
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“Those who do not view armed self defense as a basic human right, ignore the mass graves of those who died on their knees at the hands of tyrants.”
You can literally sling hot .45 with equal muzzle energy to a 7.5” AR.
There is little to no cavitation wounding from the velocity listed, and inconsistent performance. It did not expand until 8" in. Thats my point. You're getting mediocre .224 handgun performance with a flashbang on the end. You can get the same results with a shorter, lighter, quieter 9mm.
Have you read this? https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....s-Pistol/page2
Last edited by MegademiC; 06-28-22 at 12:41.
The ability to defeat soft body armor makes 5.56 superior to 9mm even if the terminal performance were the same.
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