Worker shortage?

[Backfire]

I am not convinced that everyone is hiring, and no one is applying.
Somone tries to get a job at a bank, gets a recruiter interview but recruiter never calls at appointment time, weird. Burger king knows it can close the dining area (learned convieniently from covid) and operate with only drive thru and cook.
Any business can give crappy service with minimal staff and help wanted signs, under the guise that no one is applying.
Why? Expecting superinflation and trying to keep pricing under control while maintaining training profit.
Service industries like restaurants will hire but collapse the hours of operation, but ARE staffed.
You telling me people will serve food but UPS can't find people?

Spider sense tingling

[One More Time]

I don't know about the food industry but our shop has been in hiring mode for a long time in all the departments and no one is applying.
I work for a major truck shop that pays well.
The ones who do get hired are so stupid and lazy that they cause more problems and cost money to have them.
They get to collect a check because management won't let them go because there is no one to replace them.
At this point they are just a warm body.
If they pass the two point mirror test then they get hired.
If they can fog a mirror and not start licking it then they are deemed worthy.

[utahjeepr]

Well my construction firm is hiring. Admin roles we get applicants, and some good ones included. We encourage remote work and flexibility there which helps recruit.

Field roles, imma just start going to the morgue. The dead guys are more motivated, work harder, think more, and they stay where I put em.

[markm]

The ones who do get hired are so stupid and lazy that they cause more problems and cost money to have them.
They get to collect a check because management won't let them go because there is no one to replace them.
At this point they are just a warm body.
If they pass the two point mirror test then they get hired.
If they can fog a mirror and not start licking it then they are deemed worthy.

This is my work too! Fukking goobers who're rarely at their desk. Watching movies on their phone when they are at their desk. Pretty lazy and dumb. Many are pot head morons. It's pretty discouraging.

[Coal Dragger]

Railroad industry is trying to hire.

Their problem is that management at all the big Class 1’s are so obsessed with operating ratios that they spent the last 7 years hacking and slashing manpower and treating everyone who remains like slaves. Now the word is out, and no one wants to work out here.

We’re currently in a 30 day cooling off period before we can go on strike. That’s how bad it is. I hope we can, but it will last maybe 2 hours tops before Sleepy Joe orders us back to work and appoints a PEB.

[kerplode]

Railroad industry is trying to hire.

Their problem is that management at all the big Class 1’s are so obsessed with operating ratios that they spent the last 7 years hacking and slashing manpower and treating everyone who remains like slaves. Now the word is out, and no one wants to work out here.

We’re currently in a 30 day cooling off period before we can go on strike. That’s how bad it is. I hope we can, but it will last maybe 2 hours tops before Sleepy Joe orders us back to work and appoints a PEB.

I got an email from a recruiting company a couple days ago that BNSF was looking to hire an apprentice signalman in my area. I lol'd and said "yeah, no thanks". Briefly considered the other position they offered in that same email, though...Server at Appleby's.

It totally sucks what the railroad has become. BNSF and the refinery used to be THE places to work around here back when I was growing up. Although back then, it was just Santa Fe, IIRC. Refinery closed and railroad is slave labor.

I guess I could always go back to Tech, but I really don't want to. We'll see.

I'm almost wondering if some companies are advertising openings that they have no intention of filling. Is there some term or clause in some of that Rona PPP stuff that would incentivize them in that direction?

[Backfire]

Well where is everyone e getting money to live?
Railroad would be a good career, same with UPS.
Is unemployment still paying from covid benefits...
How are people living with so many jobs open.

[tn1911]

Well where is everyone e getting money to live?
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You honestly think these folks aren’t working?

They are they took warehouse jobs that are now paying $17+ hr. They took entry level manufacturing jobs that had no choice but to up their starting pay to complete with Amazon et al...

And I’m just using Amazon as a general example of a wide swath of businesses that quickly adjusted pay to grab people.

These low paying jobs that once had a pool of people to pick from have two choices, go out of business or adjust their business model to accept lower profit margins in order to pay competitive wages.

No one wants to work... yeah, ok... no one wants to work shit jobs for shit pay when big box warehouse or gorilla manufacturing is hiring folks at nearly twice the pay.

People are gonna eat, people are gonna put some kind of roof over their heads. The idea these people just magically stopped working and all live on grandmas couch is laughable at best.

[Dusty T]

You honestly think these folks aren’t working?

They are they took warehouse jobs that are now paying $17+ hr. They took entry level manufacturing jobs that had no choice but to up their starting pay to complete with Amazon et al...

And I’m just using Amazon as a general example of a wide swath of businesses that quickly adjusted pay to grab people.

These low paying jobs that once had a pool of people to pick from have two choices, go out of business or adjust their business model to accept lower profit margins in order to pay competitive wages.

No one wants to work... yeah, ok... no one wants to work shit jobs for shit pay when big box warehouse or gorilla manufacturing is hiring folks at nearly twice the pay.

People are gonna eat, people are gonna put some kind of roof over their heads. The idea these people just magically stopped working and all live on grandmas couch is laughable at best.

Many took early retirement, one of the easiest examples is the field I work in, aviation. When the mandatory vax stipulations came pilots fled the airlines so fast the doors are still swinging. Pilots that had say 20 years in and would have happily worked until mandatory retirement said "to hell with this" and took retirement. I fly EMS so I have seen/heard the medical side of it as well from my coworkers, massive labor shortages and very few people wanting to fill in the empty slots no matter how much money is being offered

As for grasping at the low hanging fruit... blaming "low wages". Well thats pretty much been disproven with reality. Yes there is massive inflation but that is in large part driving by INCREASING wages trying to attract people. Entry level grunt work HAS massively increased wages/benefits yet they still aren't getting people in, and the few that do don't want to work. Local to me one can walk into Walmart and be working the floor the next day at $16/hr with benefits including insurance, profit sharing, etc. That is about 50% hire wage than five years ago. Show up every day and do the bare minimum that same worker can in less than a year be earning $22/hr. No skills, no education, not even a clean UA needed.

[Twilk73]

The auto tech trade is so bad I’ve had employers try to poach me. Fortunately for my current employer of 11 years he’s always taken great care of me so I’m sticking it out with him. I had a really good offer at a close by location that I told him about which in turn got me a raise. Getting a competent tech that is a great worker is hard to come by even when the pay is good.

Closing a dining area to cut down on workers isn’t happening. I don’t know if Burger King was just an example or what but my Burger King has the dinning open. It’s the only fast food joint in town that seems to keep employees and is efficient.