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Thread: Germany's rifle drama finally reaching a conclusion?

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    https://www.dw.com/en/heckler-koch-g...ces/a-18402772

    When the G36 overheats, either because of the temperature it finds itself in or because of constant, rapid fire, the precision and accuracy of the rifle suffer. The reason for this, according to the Defense Ministry, is that the rifle's barrel holder is made of a composite polymer that - even at a temperature as low as 23 degrees Celsius - softens and is no longer able to hold the barrel straight. Many of the components of the rifle are made of plastic, which account for its lighter weight when compared to its counterparts, such as the French FAMAS F1 or the American Colt AR-15.

    A strictly classified series of tests conducted over the past months by three different applied science organizations, two Bundeswehr-related and one independent, was presented to von der Leyen at the end of March. The results, which were leaked to Reuters and select German media outlets, raised eyebrows well beyond the Defense Ministry.

    All it takes is two magazines (60 rounds of ammunition) to heat up the barrel to an extent that "serious accuracy degradation" occurs, the researchers found. At this point, the accuracy degradation can be as severe as 50 centimeters at a range of 200 meters, and a full 6 meters at a range of 500 meters.

    "The Heckler & Koch G36 has no future in the German army in its current state of construction," von der Leyen said in front of dozens of journalists following a special convention of the parliamentary committee on Wednesday.
    “The Trump Doctrine is ‘We’re America, Bitch.’ That’s the Trump Doctrine.”

    "He is free to evade reality, he is free to unfocus his mind and stumble blindly down any road he pleases, but not free to avoid the abyss he refuses to see."

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    double tap
    Last edited by mack7.62; 06-24-22 at 07:18.
    “The Trump Doctrine is ‘We’re America, Bitch.’ That’s the Trump Doctrine.”

    "He is free to evade reality, he is free to unfocus his mind and stumble blindly down any road he pleases, but not free to avoid the abyss he refuses to see."

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    So the once World Renowned Country for the manufacture of the world's finest weapons. Decides to copy a 67 year old American design.

    Murica!

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    Heck, they could always resurrect the G3

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    I'm actually curious to see if they just go straight to the 416, or if the Army's new 6.8x51 cartridge is given any consideration. As said above, it will likely not make a bit of difference considering the Germans won't fight, but it would be an interesting development.
    It's f*****g great, putting holes in people, all the time, and it just puts 'em down mate, they drop like sacks of s**t when they go down with this.
    --British veteran of the Ukraine War, discussing the FN SCAR H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aries144 View Post
    What's wrong with the G36? All the complaints about it I've traced back to the first gen stacked optic, which was poorly thought out and poorly manufactured, or the accuracy thing, which turned out to stem from a bad batch of ammo that got sent to front line troops. What problem does the actual rifle have?
    Receivers splitting at the trunnion area. Less than desirable accuracy. Problem with barrels at one point heating up and grouping all over the place.

    The single / dual optic is irrelevant as it's easily replaced by a rail than can run any optic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsd2053 View Post
    So the once World Renowned Country for the manufacture of the world's finest weapons. Decides to copy a 67 year old American design.

    Murica!
    Given that Larry Vickers was directly involved that shouldn't be surprising.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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