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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    If demographics were destiny, we would’ve beat North Vietnam and Afghanistan, and been able to fix Iraq.

    If anything, the economics and demographics are against the Russians. Especially the longer this goes on.

    On the other side of the globe, China has to win and win fast. We don’t have to win there. All we have to do is starve them out and it won’t take long. The only reason that the Chinese can eat is because we guarantee the freeno of navigation and the food getting to them.

    Russia has to Rapids had around the fact that it doesn’t get to substigate people greater than its own population for its own paranoia. Also, I find it incredibly laughable and naïve that people think that you can reason with someone who threatens to use nuclear weapons at every turn.

    If Ukraine falls, Poland goes nuclear. China makes a move on Taiwan, Japan goes nuclear. but at this point, I think the Chinese are actually planning on Russia disintegrating and then be able to take the eastern half of Russia. The Russians have been demagogue so much who gives a crap.

    You can say that the Chinese are protected by the idea that you never wanna get caught in a land war in Asia, but the ancillary to that is, you don’t want to get into a naval battle with the United States.
    Man, I tell you. I don’t agree with any of your analysis. I think you are far too bias to come to any logical conclusion…But I don’t have too agree. This is what makes this country great!
    All I have left to say, is not if, but when the petro dollar collapses….you will eventually see how wrong you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buncheong View Post
    Someone should let blowhard-imbecile Douglas MacGregor know, as well as Scott Ritter the two-time convicted pederast, and self-proclaimed communist and low IQ grifter Jackson Hinkle.
    I don't know much about Girkin but none of that comes as a surprise and is well supported by various sources. I tend to think the Russians can win simply the the ability to throw more men at it and absorb more losses, which his how the Russians have always won the wars they did. War is attrition and it's down to who can lose more men and gear and supplies for both, and continue to fight. The Ukrainians know that and why they know they need to keep the pressure on and keep the US/NATO believing they have the capability and moral to win to keep the flow of toys and $ flowing. If/when it becomes clear to the US/NATO Ukraine can't win, then the $ and toys will likley dry up, forcing Ukraine to the negotiating table.

    I think the loss of human life on both sides in the next 6m - 1y, is going to be huge, 500k - 1M.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mack7.62 View Post
    —snip—-and second how much of that $113 billion is made up of old crap we no longer want, M113's, HUMVE's, MRAP's etc. Yes we are giving them some of the good stuff also but if the US military pays attention (I have little hope) what is being learned can save American lives and that has value.
    pretty much. A portion of this is money we already spent to fight Russians.

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    The only thing the US military is paying attention to is maternity uniforms and promotions for tranny soldiers who identify as pregnant.

    Andy
    1) we’ve had maternity uniforms forever. Or do you think we were kicking chicks out for getting prego in the Reagan years?

    2) you cannot “identify as” pregnant in the armed forces. There are regulations for this, which are publicly available for your reading pleasure, rather than whatever rage porn you’ve been reading/watching/listening to.

    3) “the only thing the US military is paying attention to” bit is so absurd and illogical that I don’t feel the need to debunk it.

    You’re better than this.
    Last edited by 1168; 02-07-23 at 12:06. Reason: Removed antagonistic language

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    pretty much. A portion of this is money we already spent to fight Russians.



    1) we’ve had maternity uniforms forever. Or do you think we were kicking chicks out for getting prego in the Reagan years?

    2) you cannot “identify as” pregnant in the armed forces. There are regulations for this, which are publicly available for your reading pleasure, rather than whatever rage porn you’ve been reading/watching/listening to.

    3) “the only thing the US military is paying attention to” bit is so absurd and illogical that I don’t feel the need to debunk it.

    You’re better than this.
    We had maternity uniforms but no transexuals and damn sure no one telling us men can get pregnant.

    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    We had maternity uniforms but no transexuals and damn sure no one telling us men can get pregnant.

    Andy
    Link me to the training that tells us that men can be pregnant, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    Link me to the training that tells us that men can be pregnant, please.
    Never let your extensive 1st hand career experience override an internet talking point...

    Next you'll be told you're brainwashed by the evil Biden administration

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinzgauer View Post
    Never let your extensive 1st hand career experience override an internet talking point...

    Next you'll be told you're brainwashed by the evil Biden administration
    If only people could just admit to hyperbolic humor, we could all just have a laugh.

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    It's all regime change initiated by the US. Geopolitical objectives can be achieved through impractical decisions. It's a game where political players get to play with lives without risking theirs.
    You won't outvote the corruption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    It's all regime change initiated by the US. Geopolitical objectives can be achieved through impractical decisions. It's a game where political players get to play with lives without risking theirs.
    I read this in Dale Gribble’s voice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    I think the loss of human life on both sides in the next 6m - 1y, is going to be huge, 500k - 1M.
    It may well be, but as Stalin allegedly said, one death is a tragedy a million is a statistic. One can read a news clip tomorrow, 2 million dead in ukie russia conflict, then go to Starbucks and complain their latte was hot instead of iced, that is the real trauma for their day; 2 million dead strangers on the other side of the world, irrelevent. A bit harsh, but thats the reality.

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