Russian invasion of Ukraine discussion

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Ukrainian bicycle generators? That was a curious story considering these morning headlines.

Russia launches missile attacks on Ukraine's power infrastructure for the first time in months

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9/21


Russia launched a massive air attack on the Ukrainian capital Kyiv and five other cities overnight, injuring at least 18 people and damaging infrastructure facilities across the country.

Vladimir Putin’s troops targeted Kherson, Kyiv, Kharkiv, Cherkasy, an industrial zone in the region of Lviv and the northwest city of Rivne, damaging energy infrastructure across the country, evoking memories of last year’s Russian air campaign which causes sweeping outages ahead of winter.

More here: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news...-23/index.html

[mack7.62]

Becoming fashionable to kill Russians other places? What I find interesting is the fact that the deputy commander of the Russian "peacekeepers" was also the deputy commander of the submarine forces of the Russian Northern Fleet, bit of a manpower issue going on.


Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
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BREAKING:

Ivan Kovgan, the deputy commander of the Russian “peacekeeping contingent” in Karabakh was among the 8 Russian soldiers killed by the Azerbaijani Army yesterday.

Kovgan was also the deputy commander of the submarine forces of the Russian Northern Fleet.

[DG23]

Russia just passed a law making it illegal to take pictures of war damage I believe just after the last Kerch bridge attack, something like 10-15 years in prison. Being this is Crimea likely there are some Ukraine sympathizers working in that shipyard.

Cite the code then so we can look that up and read it...

(you can't cause there is no such law in Russia)

[DG23]

Russia launched a massive air attack on the Ukrainian capital Kyiv and five other cities overnight, injuring at least 18 people and damaging infrastructure facilities across the country.

Wait a minute, I thought Kiev was protected with the mighty 'Patriot' system that makes those hits unpossible!

A New York Times investigation 'strongly suggested' on Monday that Ukrainian forces were responsible for a deadly missile strike at a Donbass market, on the day US Secretary of State Antony Blinken visited the country.

The incident on September 6 in the Kiev-controlled Donbass city of Konstantinovka killed at least 15 civilians and injured scores of others.

The NYT said evidence pointed to a “tragic mishap” involving a Ukrainian anti-air Buk missile that apparently veered off course. The newspaper analyzed missile fragments, satellite imagery, witness accounts, and social media posts to come to the conclusion. It noted that Ukrainian authorities tried to prevent journalists from accessing the impact site.

UAF caught in another lie! Whoda thunk that possible!

[tn1911]

Cite the code then so we can look that up and read it...

(you can't cause there is no such law in Russia)

Well, Yevgeny you’d know!

[tn1911]

Saboteurs claim major victory after bomb strike where Putin keeps Doomsday plane


https://metro.co.uk/2023/09/20/russi...test-19528376/

[WillBrink]

As mentioned in various places, Ukraine had better make all efforts to take back their territory before the next election. Paul may be a semi lone voice currently, Ukraine should expect and prepare for the $ train to dry up if Brandon loses next election. Those sentiments will only grow among the GOP and even some Dems, and the general public:

[ChattanoogaPhil]

^^^^ should be required listening.

[StainlessSteelRat]

How much of those billions are finding their way back to the politicians? Same as it ever was. Seems we never learn.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

I can always count on the Paul’s to demonstrate why there is never a coherent LIberterian govt. It would take too long to go point by point why he is wrong on almost every point. But for example- he complains about corruption over there, but then his major evidence of corruption is actions by the Ukies to take down people who are seen as corrupt.

I’m just tired or explaining geopolitics, economics, and history to people. I’m not sure who was the first to push this in terms of domestic politics. I think it was the right, but I think teh left was more than happy to participate.

If any of these bozos put forth budgets anywhere NEAR balanced, they’d have a leg to stand on. He keeps on saying $113B, how about saying it in real terms, 5% of our defense budget.

The war in Ukraine is the best deal in adversary degradation, ever. Makes Star Wars and brining about the end of the Cold War look expensive and excessive.