Russian invasion of Ukraine discussion

[tn1911]

Maybe we should look at who has the least to lose.

I blame the Vatican, or maybe those sketchy ****ers from Liechtenstein

[glocktogo]

Soros did it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[georgeib]

Maybe we should look at who has the least to lose, if you believe, like many do, Russia already has plans to cut off gas supply to Western Europe to put pressure on NATO this winter then why the hell wouldn't they blow it up. Bonus then they get all the useful idiots coming out with bullshit about how maybe it was US, maybe NATO, maybe Poland, maybe big oil mercs.

This seems very plausible to me. Agreed that in many ways Russia has the least to lose by blowing up their own pipeline. On the other hand, it would be fair to say that the gas being shut down was a foregone conclusion either way, so it wouldn't really make much difference to western interests ultimately. As they can force Russia to play their ace card by shutting down the pipeline for them, and taking it out of play.

[tn1911]

The threat of nuclear war hangs over the Russia-Ukraine crisis

https://www.kucb.org/2022-03-18/the-...ukraine-crisis

U.S. steps up intel, surveillance after Putin’s nuke threats. But Washington worries that the first signs of a possible attack may come too late.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...lance-00059020

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Seriously, energy traders / speculators get all benefit, no downside from this. Maybe we've entered THAT level of dystopia.

Otherwise, I agree that the US doesn't seem quite this crazy, although the US certainly has the ability. Here's more reporting and speculation on whether the US did it:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...fense-minister

The one thing I am fairly certain is that Russia did not do it, given that it is entirely loss for them, not gain.

Well, if zero hedge says it’s true… Then it’s definitely not true.

[gsd2053]

It certainly looks like the US hit the Russian pipeline.

[tn1911]

It certainly looks like the US hit the Russian pipeline.

LOL!!!

Biden ain’t got the balls to order that op.

[robbins290]

It certainly looks like the US hit the Russian pipeline.

got any proof of that? what makes you think the US did it?

[gsd2053]

got any proof of that? what makes you think the US did it?

A former Polish Defense Minister, Radek Sikorski, has attributed to the United States the sabotage of two pipelines, Nord Stream 1 and 2, which carry natural gas from Russia to Germany. “Thank you, USA,” Sikorski wrote on Twitter. Sikorski was Minister of National Defense from 2005 - 2007 and served as Deputy Minister of National Defense and Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, previously. He is currently an elected member of the European parliament.

[The Dumb Gun Collector]

I sure hope that's true. But I still have my doubts. I just find it hard to believe Biden has it in him. Putin certainly didn't think so when he started this fiasco and that is one of the few things I agree with Putin on.