I hear you. The demographics don’t lie. Ukraine cannot sustain this war for too much longer.Originally Posted by prepare
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I hear you. The demographics don’t lie. Ukraine cannot sustain this war for too much longer.
Last edited by camoman; 02-07-23 at 06:02.
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First any money the Demorats spend on the border will be to welcome the invaders and second how much of that $113 billion is made up of old crap we no longer want, M113's, HUMVE's, MRAP's etc. Yes we are giving them some of the good stuff also but if the US military pays attention (I have little hope) what is being learned can save American lives and that has value.
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The only thing the US military is paying attention to is maternity uniforms and promotions for tranny soldiers who identify as pregnant.
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Last edited by AndyLate; 02-07-23 at 07:04.
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Here is a good video, and article about where Col. Douglas Macgregor sees this war is going.
https://www.newswars.com/ukraine-has...wn-on-failure/
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You do realize that’s from June of last year? And has aged about as well as egg salad from last year.
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It's that simple.
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Well, not too much has changed. Kiev is still at the wrong end of the demographic spectrum. Russia has made several advances in the past few months.
The only thing keeping this war alive is the west…but that is unsustainable. There is gonna come a time where the west is either gonna have to get directly involved, or cut their losses. And how do you really think that will go? The West cannot possibly sustain a war on two major fronts, against Russia and China, especially when the logistics aren’t on our side. In fact, that type of brain dead thinking will absolutely be the end of the US.
Last edited by camoman; 02-07-23 at 08:22.
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Someone should let blowhard-imbecile Douglas MacGregor know, as well as Scott Ritter the two-time convicted pederast, and self-proclaimed communist and low IQ grifter Jackson Hinkle.
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Of course, which will be after irreparably damaging Putin's ability to further his aggression, waking Europe the F up that the cold war never ended and the Russians are not their friend, show China we can and will make what would be a quick win a total meat grinder, etc, etc. Whether Putin "wins" or loses, he's already lost and set his nation back 50-70 years. The ongoing geo political struggles of our system vs theirs continues, and Putin's aggression towards his neighbors went unchecked, now it's being checked, and checked hard.
While many here use the term "proxy war" they don't seem to know the history of them, the value of them, and of course the risks. Sure, once the Russians are finally able to take and hold enough territory that Putin thinks he's made his point, and the Ukes forced to the table (likely by the US/NATO who tells them the toys and $ goes away of they don't) , we will cut our losses which will be a major net gain to the larger goals of checking Putin/Russian expansion and influence, just as they attempt to do to us, as the Chinese attempt same.
That's how the world works and it's winner and losers. Human are aggressive tribalistic assholes and that's not going away any time soon. I prefer to be on the winning side and always push back on communists, dictators, and similar.
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If demographics were destiny, we would’ve beat North Vietnam and Afghanistan, and been able to fix Iraq.
If anything, the economics and demographics are against the Russians. Especially the longer this goes on.
On the other side of the globe, China has to win and win fast. We don’t have to win there. All we have to do is starve them out and it won’t take long. The only reason that the Chinese can eat is because we guarantee the freeno of navigation and the food getting to them.
Russia has to Rapids had around the fact that it doesn’t get to substigate people greater than its own population for its own paranoia. Also, I find it incredibly laughable and naïve that people think that you can reason with someone who threatens to use nuclear weapons at every turn.
If Ukraine falls, Poland goes nuclear. China makes a move on Taiwan, Japan goes nuclear. but at this point, I think the Chinese are actually planning on Russia disintegrating and then be able to take the eastern half of Russia. The Russians have been demagogue so much who gives a crap.
You can say that the Chinese are protected by the idea that you never wanna get caught in a land war in Asia, but the ancillary to that is, you don’t want to get into a naval battle with the United States.
Last edited by FromMyColdDeadHand; 02-07-23 at 08:58.
The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.
It's that simple.
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And if pigs could fly...
They're removing walls that we've already spent money on. And would never spend incremental money on securing the border.
If they wanted to they would do it and still give Ukraine military aid.
As to spending money on carriers and super expensive jets, that is also not likely to fly under the current administration. Not unless they get a cut, which they probably do.
Russia is a stability threat, an agent provocateur if not a direct threat to other ex Soviet Union NATO countries.
They have repeatedly shown this, and in particular Putin with his views and goals to reestablish the Soviet Union empire. He even says it in his speeches!
If the invasion into Ukraine was not countered then Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, etc were almost guaranteed to be next on the list.
Independent of all the above, there are people whom this is their core expertise who indicate that the combination of rotating stocks of munitions, testing new munitions, and reducing Russia's capability to get sporty is well worth the investment. Which is a drop in the bucket compared to the spending the current administration does on things that do not improve US stability, in fact hurt it.
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