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    Ukraine, Israel, NATO, Germany, and the US all stated Russia blew the dam.

    Ukraine struck the bridge deck with GMLRS during the Kherson offensive last year and damaged one of the floodgates, Russia blew charges set on the bridge deck and damaged some sluice gates during their withdraw.

    The Russians have had control of the dam since capturing it in FEB2022, the control facilities are on the Russian side, Russian troops posted on social media about setting charges in the dam SEP2022.

    The Russians allowed the water level behind the dam to rise over the last several weeks to the point of flowing over the top.

    Social media posting from pro Russia sphere claiming responsibility immediately after breach, a few hours later all changed to blaming Ukraine.

    Seismic anomalies detected in Romania and Norway at the time the dam blew suggest event was nearly instantaneous. Info from nearby residents along the lines of "all was quiet, then a big explosion, we ran out and saw the destruction" is pretty consistent

    The dam was constructed by the soviets during the cold war, a design objective was resistance to western strategic bombing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    So if the Ukrainians stated last year they had plans to blow up the dam and they even fired a test missile at it.

    The blowing up of the dam disrupts Russian attacks and deprives the Russian civilians in Crimea water, which means no crops will be grown.

    Then of course Russia blew up the dam. We also are supposed to ignore that Zelensky has pocked $1.2 billion of our money in the last year.

    I know many here will say Yoni is pro Putin. They would be wrong.

    I feel about this war as I did about the Iran Iraq war, good luck to both of you.

    What I do care about is the long term money laundering for American politicians of both parties of American taxpayers money in Ukraine.

    It is time the American people woke up and put an end to the direct both parties are taking the USA.
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    Nato members may send troops to Ukraine, warns former alliance chief

    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...alliance-chief

    We know that Poland is very engaged in providing concrete assistance to Ukraine. And I wouldn’t exclude the possibility that Poland would engage even stronger in this context on a national basis and be followed by the Baltic states, maybe including the possibility of troops on the ground.
    Looks like Poland has had enough of Russia’s shit...
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    Let’s hope Poland doesn’t show their ass. Lukashenko talks like he can’t wait to light up Poland with tactical nukes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artos View Post
    You catch Tucker's opener on his return to twatter??


    https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/st...03439146172419
    No I didn't .

    I don't know what he said I will just note that on the Hugh Hewitt radio program in the past like real time when the Steele garbage came out as a black op against Trump and we had the letter signed by a bunch of whores and liars and all the USA 3 letter boys said it was true, I said on air it was a lie and Hugh gave me hell for it
    When the pipeline got blown, I said it wasn't Russia and now it is reported it was Ukraine and I am willing to bet they had help from the USA.

    On the dam it has slowed the Russian attack because everything is underwater. It will starve out southern Ukraine and Crimea because of no irrigation. Which will force the Russian heritage people living there to move back to Russia.

    The dam has lengthened the war, which means more of our money will go into scum bags pockets there and here.

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    Ukraine Situation Report: Offensive Going Better Than Expected, U.S. Says

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    Administration officials “were encouraged by better-than-expected progress Monday, as Ukrainian units pushed through heavily mined areas to advance between five and 10 kilometers in some areas of the long front,” Washington Post columnist David Ignatius reported Tuesday. “That raised hopes that Ukrainian forces can keep thrusting toward Mariupol, Melitopol and other Russian-held places along the coast.”

    Biden administration officials say the offensive began on Monday with a Ukrainian thrust south along multiple axes, Ignatius reported, echoing what we reported Monday.
    DG isn’t going to like this, I expect more angry photos of old ladies charging their cellphones coming
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    Ukraine’s F-16s Could Come With These Weapons

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-these-weapons

    AGM-84 Harpoon. Ukraine has had ground-launched Harpoon anti-ship missiles for months now. Those weapons have about a 70-mile range, but when you put them on a tactical aircraft that equation changes drastically. F-16s can work as both targeting and delivery platforms for Harpoons, which could greatly complicate Russia's Black Sea Fleet operational calculus.
    AGM-154 Joint Stand-Off Weapon (JSOW) is perhaps the most likely and exciting new advanced weapon Ukraine would receive with its Vipers. It is very well suited for the unique combat environment in Ukraine. It can autonomously glide to its target from over 70 miles away when launched at altitude or over a dozen miles when launched at low altitude. It could be especially useful for target geolocated static/semi-static air defense systems and its imaging infrared sensor it uses for terminal homing is impervious to radio-frequency jamming. It has a very small signature, as well, making it that much harder for Russian air defenses to shoot down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    The blowing up of the dam disrupts Russian attacks and deprives the Russian civilians in Crimea water, which means no crops will be grown.
    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    On the dam it has slowed the Russian attack because everything is underwater. It will starve out southern Ukraine and Crimea because of no irrigation. Which will force the Russian heritage people living there to move back to Russia.
    What Russian attack? Like, seriously, was there some Russian offensive in the south that was unreported that happened to coincide EXACTLY when the Ukrainians were launching their offensive all across the front? Yoni, I know you have a beef with the Ukrainians for some reason, but do you have an actual source talking about a Russian offensive in the south, or are you just making something up to blame the Ukrainians?

    Considering an attack in the Kherson region was one of the probable axis for advance, the only military advantage this serves is protecting Russia's left flank, allowing them to concentrate their weakened forces further north. In the long term, this will hurt Russian abilities to hang on to Crimea, but we've seen the Russians make brain dead decisions before with little thought to the long term consequences of them. Hell, the entire war can be summed up as that.
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    Seeems like if it Ukrainian bombs or missiles the Russians would have video of something…
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    Quote Originally Posted by ODgreenpizza View Post
    Ukraine, Israel, NATO, Germany, and the US all stated Russia blew the dam.

    Ukraine struck the bridge deck with GMLRS during the Kherson offensive last year and damaged one of the floodgates, Russia blew charges set on the bridge deck and damaged some sluice gates during their withdraw.

    The Russians have had control of the dam since capturing it in FEB2022, the control facilities are on the Russian side, Russian troops posted on social media about detting charges in the dam SEP2022.

    The Russians allowed the water level behind the dam to rise over the last several weeks to the point of flowing over the top.

    Social media posting from pro Russia sphere claiming responsibility immediately after breach, a few hours later all changed to blaming Ukraine.
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