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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    Good Video Will...
    His is one the best channels. His background, his contacts in Ukraine, worked in Ukraine, etc etc, he gives the most useful info I have seen. His interviews with guys on the front line are also very good.

    Seems to me the gear the US and co is sending better come on line soon if they hope to really put the hard squash on the Russians making progress there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DG23 View Post
    Sure they are...

    Hey, BTW, What are we doing to those countries that gave a big middle finger to the sanctions and still buy from Russia?



    7.32 million barrels per day average last month... That is 'collapsing' how?

    Dude, you got to get off Rt and telegram. Emoji aren’t arguments. Hell, just watch the video and check the sources. If you had watched it you would know the answer to your questions

    But to answer your math question…9.7 to 7.3 million barrels is a 25 % decrease in production month over month. And that includes oil they are having to literally give away.
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    Another example of AFU bravery. I will say at least the Russians let him have a last smoke and it was quick.

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    Rest in peace, brave defender. After this AFU soldier was captured by Russian forces he refused to obey orders. Instead he responded with his final words: 'Slava Ukraini', before he was brutally executed.

    Russia once again shows how inhumanely it behaves, and how far it is from the civilized world.
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    Russian clownshow continues
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dumb Gun Collector View Post
    Russian clownshow continues
    Did you catch towards the beginning of that German media whatever you posted how they played a tiny clip of the Wagner band video from the center of Bakhmut?


    You GOT to see the entire video dude! As the camera pans around showing the city...

    No doubt that soon there will be reports of UAF 'evacuations' from that area! LOL!
    And then Wagner and the rest of the Russian forces will move right along and rout them from the NEXT city as they slowly but surely continue to curb stomp their asses.

    Recent reports (and videos) of the UAF drafting and sending kids as young as 16 off to fight. Just like freaking Hitler did... Before he got his ass handed to him... So much for the 'Million MAN UAF army'.

    How many hours of electricity does Kiev and western USkraine get per day now? (sure sign of 'winning' right there)

    All while the Russian economy steadily moves on despite all of the sanctions that were 'supposed' to 'cripple' their economy / stop them and the USkraine economy is non-existent and only barely functioning due to the USA footing the entire bill for their most basic of needs (including their gov pensions )



    That chart shows China (and India, Turkey, etc...) giving a big, fat double handed middle finger salute to our 'sanctions' dude.

    While the EU gets to pay MORE for their energy products!

    Hint: We are NOT going to screw with China or India or Turkey or ANY of the other big players about it either... We are not going to do jack OR shit to them. Even if we did send them 'a strongly worded message' - It should be clear by now that they give not a shit about what WE want and that they are going to do whatever they want regardless of our dictats and BS 'strongly worded' garbage.

    How about Japan very recently INCREASING their Russian oil deliveries? You think they give a half of a shit about what we think or say about their energy dealing with Russia?

    As this thing drags out Russia is going to continue to reroute their energy products (and other exports) to countries that are NOT aligned with us and expand their infrastructure (towards those countries and away from our allies) to make those transactions easier and able to handle greater volumes. (that cutting them off from the SWIFT system really 'worked' out well didn't it?)

    Germany and the EU getting to pay MORE for energy products that they require and China and India getting to pay LESS is definitely the US and our allies 'winning'.

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    Right DG keep telling yourself Bakhmut was totally worth the untold thousands of 200's and 300's it took to take a little bit of. Your Wagner bros are going to be pretty much combat ineffective after this, who are they going to use to take the next village?


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    Update on Bakhmut from the Ukrainian correspondent Yuriy Butusov (https://t.me/ButusovPlus/2335):

    "The situation in Bakhmut

    Ukrainian forces hold most of the city, including the center. Although some of our units were withdrawn from the city, this is more a matter of rotation and not a general order to withdraw. A significant number of our troops are still fighting here. There are people and equipment.

    The enemy captured the eastern part of the city, up to the Bakhmutka River. The main attack of the Russians is not in the city, but from the north, bypassing the city. The battle is over the supply path that remains. This path is under enemy fire. The enemy is encouraging our troops to withdraw from Bakhmut, as a real threat of encirclement has been created. But the enemy is advancing slowly, and that is why the Ukrainian command is sure that there are still opportunities to hold the escape routes for a while, slowing down the pace of advance and inflicting even more losses on the Russians.

    Holding the city for us in conditions of limited communication is not profitable now from the point of view of tactics. This is a matter of strategy - the Ukrainian command will hold the city until the last moment, as always. Unlike Kherson, Balaklia, Izyum, Lyman, and Kupyansk, which the Russians fled from, the Ukrainians are not leaving the city without long resistance.

    The enemy is forced to pay dearly, and slowly moves from woodline to woodline, from house to house.

    Everyone who fights in the city in unfavorable conditions hopes that the time of this heroic resistance is used to create reliable, well-equipped and camouflaged defense lines to cover Siversk, Chasiv Yar, Kostyantynivka, Druzhkivka, Sloviansk, Kramatorsk, the lines to which these combat-capable troops will be withdrawn in time. These will be reliably entrenched to be able to defeat the enemy.

    Ukrainian soldiers demonstrate high combat capability. And where there is effective management, intelligence, organization, support, at least some ammunition for artillery and mortars, the Russians are being defeated there. We have an advantage due to higher quality, more motivated and more resilient people. But war is a clash of two systems, and everything depends not only on soldiers."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DG23 View Post
    Did you catch towards the beginning of that German media whatever you posted how they played a tiny clip of the Wagner band video from the center of Bakhmut?


    You GOT to see the entire video dude! As the camera pans around showing the city...

    No doubt that soon there will be reports of UAF 'evacuations' from that area! LOL!
    And then Wagner and the rest of the Russian forces will move right along and rout them from the NEXT city as they slowly but surely continue to curb stomp their asses.

    Recent reports (and videos) of the UAF drafting and sending kids as young as 16 off to fight. Just like freaking Hitler did... Before he got his ass handed to him... So much for the 'Million MAN UAF army'.

    How many hours of electricity does Kiev and western USkraine get per day now? (sure sign of 'winning' right there)

    All while the Russian economy steadily moves on despite all of the sanctions that were 'supposed' to 'cripple' their economy / stop them and the USkraine economy is non-existent and only barely functioning due to the USA footing the entire bill for their most basic of needs (including their gov pensions )



    That chart shows China (and India, Turkey, etc...) giving a big, fat double handed middle finger salute to our 'sanctions' dude.

    While the EU gets to pay MORE for their energy products!

    Hint: We are NOT going to screw with China or India or Turkey or ANY of the other big players about it either... We are not going to do jack OR shit to them. Even if we did send them 'a strongly worded message' - It should be clear by now that they give not a shit about what WE want and that they are going to do whatever they want regardless of our dictats and BS 'strongly worded' garbage.

    How about Japan very recently INCREASING their Russian oil deliveries? You think they give a half of a shit about what we think or say about their energy dealing with Russia?

    As this thing drags out Russia is going to continue to reroute their energy products (and other exports) to countries that are NOT aligned with us and expand their infrastructure (towards those countries and away from our allies) to make those transactions easier and able to handle greater volumes. (that cutting them off from the SWIFT system really 'worked' out well didn't it?)

    Germany and the EU getting to pay MORE for energy products that they require and China and India getting to pay LESS is definitely the US and our allies 'winning'.
    Hey DG did you even look at your chart where it says Russian energy revenues have fallen to 50% since March 22 and revenues to the EU have fallen by 85%. Giving your oil and gas away is that the Russian definition of winning?
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    While it is interesting to look at the totals, since the “special military operation“ started, I think the trans overtime would be even more towing. Just says India has ramped up their usage, who has been decreasing their usage that I think is more telling than anything. I spent some time in India and I’m a huge fan of the people, but the next time they’re on the world stage and they tout themselves as the worlds largest democracy someone needs to give them raspberry.

    On the other hand I think taking all that Russian energy off the market is not realistic and would just drive our energy costs even higher. Russia providing that energy and not really making much off of it is a balancing act. Plus, you don’t want to shut off and freeze out the Siberian pipelines, you’ll need that resource to make Russia viable after Putin is (eventually one way, or the other) gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mack7.62 View Post
    Right DG keep telling yourself Bakhmut was totally worth the untold thousands of 200's and 300's it took to take a little bit of. Your Wagner bros are going to be pretty much combat ineffective after this, who are they going to use to take the next village?


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    You were saying the same garbage about Soledar. (That Wagner had lost almost all of their troops and that Kiev was still holding on to the city)

    Yet Wagner DID liberate Soledar and still had enough combat troops (and ammo) left to now be taking an even BIGGER city!

    Your propaganda could make Baghdad Bob blush dude!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DG23 View Post
    LOL!

    You were saying the same garbage about Soledar. (That Wagner had lost almost all of their troops and that Kiev was still holding on to the city)

    Yet Wagner DID liberate Soledar and still had enough combat troops (and ammo) left to now be taking an even BIGGER city!

    Your propaganda could make Baghdad Bob blush dude!
    Right your propaganda is soooo much more accurate. Fat lady ain't sung yet and whats going to cause the demise of Wagner is the infighting between Prigozhin and the MOD.

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    Head of Wagner PMC Prigozhin makes grim predictions that Wagner might be encircled around Bakhmut.

    He says he's told about that to Russian military leadership but got no results so far.

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    The head of Russia's Wagner Group Prigozhin announced that his representative at the Russian army headquarters had his pass canceled and was denied access to the grouping's headquarters.

    That occurred after Prigozhin requested the urgent delivery of ammo from the Russian army.
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