Russian invasion of Ukraine discussion

[WillBrink]

Like I guessed. You have not read it or even tried.

Like I knew, you wouldn't supply what was asked. Actually I ran a good % of it through translate software. Many references to the "deep state" of the US, those within Russia making it impossible to make war to win, and saber rattling of course. None of it changes that it's him recommending, as I predicted, to dig in and keep what they have taken and bring the "special operation" to an end. That's the only way Putin walks away with anything resembling a win at this point. Again his idea alone, or did Putin put him up to it.

Next thing what will happen is the Ukrainians will be told to take back what they can before the next US election and be prepared to be willing to negotiate based on what that looks like. That's why the fighting usually gets even worse closer to obvious up coming negotiations.

[WillieThom]

You obviously didn't even click the Yahoo link dude gave.

If you had, you would would have noticed how it was a tiny quote sliced out of the entire post. Not to mention being a story that Yahoo got (and retold with their special twist) from Ukrainska Pravda...




I plan to watch you not even try to educate yourself here.

This was the end of his post (a LONG damn post) -



He is more or less saying 'bring it' and that they are ready and willing.

You are correct. I didn’t click it. I don’t care what it says. I was simply seeing whether or not you’d post the unaltered version for us all (that you read) so that we could read it, while already knowing that you wouldn’t. (Hence the whole, “Watch this guys…”)

And I did so because you have a habit of NOT posting sources when everyone else DOES post sources, regardless of what we think of those sources.

To me, that’s kind of a little bit telling…

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Seems like there is a part one and two of his blog post. Part 1 is saying that it would be ideal for Russia if all hostilities ended now. Part 2 is saying if the current territories taken is unacceptable to Zelensky and he wishes to continue fighting then bring it on because that will be good for Russia as well.

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Part 1-- "The ideal option would be to announce the end of the special military operation and declare that Russia has achieved all of its planned goals — and, in some respects, we really have achieved them," Prigozhin wrote in comments that were picked up by Ukrainian media.

Part 2-- "Russia cannot accept any agreement, only a fair fight ... And the sooner it starts, the better," the Wagner chief said.

"The best scenario for healing Russia so that it rallies together and becomes the strongest state is the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in which no handouts and negotiations will be possible," Prigozhin said.

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Sounds like a narrative is in the process of being spun that Zelensky's so-called 'spring offensive' will make Zelensky the aggressor, as well as supporting nations.

[DG23]

Seems like there is a part one and two of his blog post. Part 1 is saying that it would be ideal for Russia if all hostilities ended now. Part 2 is saying if the current territories taken is unacceptable to Zelensky and he wishes to continue fighting then bring it on because that will be good for Russia as well.

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Part 1-- "The ideal option would be to announce the end of the special military operation and declare that Russia has achieved all of its planned goals — and, in some respects, we really have achieved them," Prigozhin wrote in comments that were picked up by Ukrainian media.

Part 2-- "Russia cannot accept any agreement, only a fair fight ... And the sooner it starts, the better," the Wagner chief said.

"The best scenario for healing Russia so that it rallies together and becomes the strongest state is the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in which no handouts and negotiations will be possible," Prigozhin said.

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Sounds like a narrative is in the process of being spun that Zelensky's so-called 'spring offensive' will make Zelensky the aggressor, as well as supporting nations.

Glad to see someone here actually read the entirety of what he actually said before commenting. Will obviously has not...

Will want's to pick one kernel from a mile long posting and use that to support a goofy opinion he has while ignoring everything else the guy said.

[DG23]

You are correct. I didn’t click it. I don’t care what it says.

As predicted.

[WillBrink]

Glad to see someone here actually read the entirety of what he actually said before commenting. Will obviously has not...

Will want's to pick one kernel from a mile long posting and use that to support a goofy opinion he has while ignoring everything else the guy said.

Per usual, you demonstrate intellectual dishonesty and trolling for all to see, and you're still wrong.

[DG23]

Per usual, you demonstrate intellectual dishonesty

Intellectual dishonesty is you commenting on crap you did not even read.

Almost as good as your Rona 'wisdom'.

[1168]

Per usual, you demonstrate intellectual dishonesty and trolling for all to see, and you're still wrong.

Not the sort of thing I say often, but perhaps the ignore button is the best move on this one. There’s no “winning” a conversation in which the “opponent” (lol, notice the absence of the word “worthy”) is intellectually dishonest, and deals primarily in debate fallacies, social media, fake news, and liberal morals to make a point, and still has to fudge a little.

[WillBrink]

Not the sort of thing I say often, but perhaps the ignore button is the best move on this one. There’s no “winning” a conversation in which the “opponent” (lol, notice the absence of the word “worthy”) is intellectually dishonest, and deals primarily in debate fallacies, social media, fake news, and liberal morals to make a point, and still has to fudge a little.

Agreed, and done. I only have 3 in my ignore file now, and try to avoid it, but life is too short to suffer idiots and trolls.

[1168]

Agreed, and done. I only have 3 in my ignore file now, and try to avoid it, but life is too short to suffer idiots and trolls.

I normally like to keep opposing views nearby, but some people haven’t really earned a seat at the adult table, and as such, are best banished to the “you’re not old enough to speak” table.