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    Another air base in Crimea hit.

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    ⚡️Explosions reported at military air base in occupied Crimea.

    Several explosions were heard at a military air base in the village of Hvardiiske, not far from Simferopol, on Aug. 16, Russian media Kommersant reported.

    And I believe this is a different attack.

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    ⚡️Explosions damage railway in occupied Crimea.

    Russian state-controlled media TASS reported that the railway line between the Azovske and Rozizd stations was damaged following the reported detonation of ammunition at a depot in the village of Maiske.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mack7.62 View Post
    I ETS'd in 76. But serious question, are you active or reserve and are you saying that non of you time is spent on CRT or diversity training and do you serve with any who identify as other than their birth gender?
    I’ve deployed 14 times since then.

    You’re moving the goalposts. Is it “more interested in diversity than warfighting”, or does any amount of non-combat training somehow prove your point? For the most part the only place I hear about “woke” or “diversity” in the .mil is here, on M4c. Y’all talk about gay shit more than actual gays. I do attend a “don’t rape or sexually harass anyone” class however often that’s required. I think annually.

    And, no, I don’t. They make up a portion of the force so small as to be unicorns, and I don’t think any are deployable under current policy. But yeah, I’ve attended tranny training twice. Once under Trump, once under Biden.

    We still train on warfighting tasks (and execute them) regardless of what you heard from the fatass at the gun counter. If you keep saying ignorant shit like in the other thread (check Navy regs before posting about them; its 2022, that shits on Google), I’m just going to put you on ignore.

    There’s a chick here that deadlifts over 500lbs….
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    I’ve deployed 14 times since then.

    You’re moving the goalposts. Is it “more interested in diversity than warfighting”, or does any amount of non-combat training somehow prove your point? For the most part the only place I hear about “woke” or “diversity” in the .mil is here, on M4c. Y’all talk about gay shit more than actual gays. I do attend a “don’t rape or sexually harass anyone” class however often that’s required. I think annually.
    It's a shame such things are required, but from the experiences I have been told via female mil friends, the stats, etc, that does not sound like a bad thing per se, but whether it actually changes anything, is another matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    And, no, I don’t. They make up a portion of the force so small as to be unicorns, and I don’t think any are deployable under current policy. But yeah, I’ve attended tranny training twice. Once under Trump, once under Biden.
    LOL. Can we hear more about that? What do they talk about? That one must be interesting. For myself, don't care if the person "self identifies" as a blender if they do their job and pull their weight. I'm libertarian on such matters personally.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    We still train on warfighting tasks (and execute them) regardless of what you heard from the fatass at the gun counter. If you keep saying ignorant shit like in the other thread (check Navy regs before posting about them; its 2022, that shits on Google), I’m just going to put you on ignore.

    There’s a chick here that deadlifts over 500lbs….
    This gives me some hope the woke nonsense has not infiltrated the mil as badly as some claim, I have heard differently from others in the mil however, so no doubt somewhat dependent on where you are, what you're doing etc.

    As someone who has worked with strength athletes, pro BBers, etc, etc, I know some very strong ladies. A few of which are retired mil. 500lb DL is getting into WR territory, so I'd gather she'd either big gal, and or a competitive lifter. Personally, I think that's cool as F and a strong lady vs weak and soft and helpless, is all good by me.

    She's the one who will put the SAW over one shoulder, a box of ammo in one hand, and drag a wounded person by their drag handle to safety. There's plenty of men who can't do that, but to be sure, a lot more men can vs women can do that.

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    Russian invasion of Ukraine discussion

    You guys really want to talk all of that, I’m up for it, but someone needs to start a different thread. I just left USASOC for TRADOC so I’m in the middle of a major culture swing but happy to give actual experience.

    Bottom line though, is that 1168 is right. Most of the bullshit I hear about the military is from people that have been out for decades or was never in. There’s plenty of actual bullshit to talk about so I can, but let’s at least be real about it.


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    The Ukrainians Have Struck Another Russian Airfield In Crimea

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    Y’all talk about gay shit more than actual gays. .
    LOL. This isn't just here. I have buddies that can't talk about anything without this coming up. It reminds me of Walter in the Big Lebowski who somehow made everything about Vietnam.
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    Russian invasion of Ukraine discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by DG23 View Post
    Not if they are adults and males...

    Women and small children may be able to leave but otherwise - They is in the army now! like it or not...


    This garbage about Russia 'kidnapping' Ukrainians is just more propaganda from the usual idiots spreading the propaganda.
    https://www.info-res.org/post/deport...rted-to-russia

    “Ukrainian refugees are presented with the illusion of choice from the moment of their capture until their involuntary settlement in Russian territory. They are trapped in a Kafka-esque system working against them. Kept under the watchful eyes of the invading forces from the moment of their capture until their forceful placement in Russian territory, there is no safe way to escape a process in which the wrong answer can cost them their lives.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dumb Gun Collector View Post
    LOL. This isn't just here. I have buddies that can't talk about anything without this coming up. It reminds me of Walter in the Big Lebowski who somehow made everything about Vietnam.
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    Russia to stage ‘provocation’ at nuclear plant, warns Ukrainian military

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-nuclear-plant

    Russian vehicles seen inside turbine hall at Ukraine nuclear plant

    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/19/e...hnk/index.html

    Russia allegedly tells nuclear power plant workers not to go to work Friday amid concerns of a planned incident

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/r...nues-rcna43673

    Chilling map shows how Chernobyl-style fallout will spread across Europe as Russia ‘plans attack on nuke plant TODAY’

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/6032802...a-war-fallout/

    Russia warns radioactive waste could hit Germany if accident occurs at damaged nuclear power plant

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/18/russ...box=1660825075

    Russia 'planning to disconnect Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant'

    https://amp.dw.com/en/russia-ukraine...ant/a-62863804
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    Not a fan of the Ukraine or its goon squad leadership or EU/NATO at all, but I will say this:

    Russian leadership looks incompetent AF. Contract soldiers being let out of their contracts (!), heavy use of militias composed of middle-aged men rather than professional military, no mobilization, no martial law like the US had in Hawaii during WWII, not enough drones, not enough NV, sh#t optics, sh#t strategy, and very heavy losses of both humans and hardware, which Russian Federation cannot afford.

    Two-time convicted sex offender Scott Ritter can shift the goalposts any which way he wants to rationalize failure, and propagandist pinheads like “the Saker” can make up whatever fairy tales help them sleep at night. But fact is, the entire Russian war effort has devolved into an idiotic clusterf#ck run by clueless, wavering, self-serving political imbeciles in Moscow.

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