Russian invasion of Ukraine discussion

[Wake27]

You're all class, Wake. Really.

You stated that you’d cheer on Russia if they defeated NATO. The US is NATO, or at least a huge part of it. So you’d cheer on Russia if they defeated the United States, at least in current standing. I was serious, get the **** out.


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[mack7.62]

Quite the prisoner exchange, top commanders of the Mariupol defense and around 200 more, I am wondering who Ukraine had to trade for these guys.

The Kyiv Independent
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⚡️⚡️Commanders of the Azovstal defense, including Denys Prokopenko, the head of the Azov regiment, deputy commander Svyatoslav Palamar and marine commander Serhiy Volynsky, were among the 215 people released from Russian captivity in a massive prisoner exchange on Sept. 21.

The five top commanders were delivered to Ankara in Turkey, where they spoke via teleconference with President Volodymyr Zelensky.

They were escorted by Interior Minister Denys Monastyrsky and Defense Ministry's Intelligence Chief Kyrylo Budanov.

[yoni]

Who will replace Putin? What will Russia be like?

The problem is the middle has gone away in Russia, we have the right that is demanding destroy everything in Ukraine and use nukes if you have to . The left wants basically a Russian surrender.

Regarding NATO it should have been disbanded and if not sure not expanded eastward. If you point to Russian aggression after NATO has expanded east, that to me suggest a total disregard for Russian concerns. Which can only come from a lack of knowledge of Russian history.

I had someone tell me today they are willing to trade nukes with Russia over the Ukraine . To me this is just as stupid as the Russians that want to use nukes.

90 days from now, NATO will fold and it will be the USA the sole supporter of the Ukraine. A large part of that support is from kickbacks.

Why will NATO fold, the streets of every EU city will be full of cold and hungry people demanding an end to the war.

[Wake27]

The problem is the middle has gone away in Russia, we have the right that is demanding destroy everything in Ukraine and use nukes if you have to . The left wants basically a Russian surrender.

Regarding NATO it should have been disbanded and if not sure not expanded eastward. If you point to Russian aggression after NATO has expanded east, that to me suggest a total disregard for Russian concerns. Which can only come from a lack of knowledge of Russian history.

I had someone tell me today they are willing to trade nukes with Russia over the Ukraine . To me this is just as stupid as the Russians that want to use nukes.

90 days from now, NATO will fold and it will be the USA the sole supporter of the Ukraine. A large part of that support is from kickbacks.

Why will NATO fold, the streets of every EU city will be full of cold and hungry people demanding an end to the war.

And if those countries fold, suddenly Russia is going to forget everything and fix all of the problems?


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[Diamondback]

And if those countries fold, suddenly Russia is going to forget everything and fix all of the problems?


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My expectation is that Putin would use it to dictate terms and rebuild and expand the Evil Empire. Consider longtime foes Poland, Ukraine and Germany erased from the map and replaced by "Greater Russia"...

[yoni]

And if those countries fold, suddenly Russia is going to forget everything and fix all of the problems?


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I didn't say that after they fold Russia is going to do anything good or bad.

But fold they will, when you have governments and EU banks telling people how to get firewood now, it is very clear it is going to such to be in the EU in December through April.

[Wake27]

I didn't say that after they fold Russia is going to do anything good or bad.

But fold they will, when you have governments and EU banks telling people how to get firewood now, it is very clear it is going to such to be in the EU in December through April.

Why fold if they have nothing to gain though?


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[yoni]

Why fold if they have nothing to gain though?


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I am not picking on you, but that is the answer of an American. Thank G-D Americans in my life have not suffered wide spread starvation and freezing in unheated homes.

Let us look at this a totally different way. Several times a year very fit and healthy males show up to go through BUDS. They run and get a lot of healthy workouts and then they also get in the surf and get really cold and do it all again and again. I would say that 90% of them are fit enough to make it through selection, but they don't.

They don't make it because despite the strong body, the mind and soul are weak. So like 70% ring the bell.

How long does a father have to see his very cold and very hungery children sitting in an apartment in a EU city, till they take to the streets. Maybe they even cry for revolution.

The politicians will back away from the Ukraine war so fast, it will make your head spin.

Something to gain, I wish you were with my in Ethiopia and the Sudan along with a few other places. They are only trying to gain the ability to hope again that things will get better.

Soon no one in the EU will give a damn about Ukraine, stop the war start the gas will be the cry.

[yoni]

The greatest ally of Mother Russia, winter is coming.

[Wake27]

I am not picking on you, but that is the answer of an American. Thank G-D Americans in my life have not suffered wide spread starvation and freezing in unheated homes.

Let us look at this a totally different way. Several times a year very fit and healthy males show up to go through BUDS. They run and get a lot of healthy workouts and then they also get in the surf and get really cold and do it all again and again. I would say that 90% of them are fit enough to make it through selection, but they don't.

They don't make it because despite the strong body, the mind and soul are weak. So like 70% ring the bell.

How long does a father have to see his very cold and very hungery children sitting in an apartment in a EU city, till they take to the streets. Maybe they even cry for revolution.

The politicians will back away from the Ukraine war so fast, it will make your head spin.

Something to gain, I wish you were with my in Ethiopia and the Sudan along with a few other places. They are only trying to gain the ability to hope again that things will get better.

Soon no one in the EU will give a damn about Ukraine, stop the war start the gas will be the cry.

I understand that as why it could happen, I was just trying to understand why you were saying it would. Something along these lines would’ve been my guess, just wanted to understand your thought process on it.


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