A quarter of Americans open to taking up arms against government, poll says

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

So only 37% of these people in the poll even own guns. Are they going to fight the Gov with bats and pitchforks?

The worst day in American history was done with flag poles and lacrosse sticks…. According to Whore Cheney….

Better headline:
75% of Americans pass first test for fighting an insurgency by keeping their pie-holes shut…

[prepare]

Its a good start.

[Sam]

But poopy pants joe said they have F-15s. They'd bomb the snots out of those 1/4 people that try anything funny.

[SteyrAUG]

Is that all?

The ones talking shit will only join in IF it looks like they are gonna have complete immunity. It's the "no comment" people who have plans to rock when things get rolling.

[BangBang77]

Just a bit of perspective...

We have approximately 329,500,000 people in the US.

25% of that is 82,375,000.

37% of that 25% is 30,478,750.

There were approximately 1,330,000 total active duty members of the military in 2021, with another estimated 800,000 reserve forces for a total of 2,130,000 personnel. It has been estimated that only 10% of the overall force are combat arms, which brings us to 213,000.

If only 25% of that 30,478,750 actually put their money where their mouth is if we go to guns, we would still end up with 7,619,688 million "civilians" taking up arms. A portion of whom have military experience.

7,619,688 to 213,000 is 35.7 to 1 odds.

I'd take that bet in Vegas. All day, every day.

[BoringGuy45]

Just a bit of perspective...

We have approximately 329,500,000 people in the US.

25% of that is 82,375,000.

37% of that 25% is 30,478,750.

There were approximately 1,330,000 total active duty members of the military in 2021, with another estimated 800,000 reserve forces for a total of 2,130,000 personnel. It has been estimated that only 10% of the overall force are combat arms, which brings us to 213,000.

If only 25% of that 30,478,750 actually put their money where their mouth is if we go to guns, we would still end up with 7,619,688 million "civilians" taking up arms. A portion of whom have military experience.

7,619,688 to 213,000 is 35.7 to 1 odds.

I'd take that bet in Vegas. All day, every day.

That, of course, is assuming that the entire military would remain 100% loyal to the government in a civil war/rebellion. Depending on what would spark a revolt, the military could see some massive defections, bringing down their numbers even more.

[SteyrAUG]

That, of course, is assuming that the entire military would remain 100% loyal to the government in a civil war/rebellion. Depending on what would spark a revolt, the military could see some massive defections, bringing down their numbers even more.

There are more than a few variable to this version of the Drake Equation. But the mere fact that it isn't an obvious "slam dunk" is the only reason most of us still have a safe full of M4s and such.

The government (and by that I mean about 85% of them regardless of what initial is beside their name) will attempt to legislate that number as low as they can get it and will then act accordingly. While I don't want to underestimate the resolve of the radical left, their skill set is acts of terrorism, rioting in sufficient numbers and removing historical landmarks they deem offensive. In any kind of full on shooting war, even their members with military experience and training would get Finlands so hard by an incredibly small number of their conservative counterparts their heads would spin.

The only real opposition we'd face in a full on shooting war are the other "real fighters" from organized criminal groups and similarly skilled opportunists. Even in LA during the Rodney King riots, "korea town" remained a "no fly zone."

Obviously there would be "very blue" zones that only a complete fool would attempt to infiltrate (just as the koreans didn't try and overrun Compton), but if cut off and isolated they would pretty much become their own biggest problem.

[titsonritz]

Factor in it supposedly was 13% that did the heavy lifting during the Revolutionary War.

[georgeib]

Factor in it supposedly was 13% that did the heavy lifting during the Revolutionary War.

Wasn't it only 3%?

[ViperTwoSix]

There are more than a few variable to this version of the Drake Equation. But the mere fact that it isn't an obvious "slam dunk" is the only reason most of us still have a safe full of M4s and such.

The government (and by that I mean about 85% of them regardless of what initial is beside their name) will attempt to legislate that number as low as they can get it and will then act accordingly. While I don't want to underestimate the resolve of the radical left, their skill set is acts of terrorism, rioting in sufficient numbers and removing historical landmarks they deem offensive. In any kind of full on shooting war, even their members with military experience and training would get Finlands so hard by an incredibly small number of their conservative counterparts their heads would spin.

The only real opposition we'd face in a full on shooting war are the other "real fighters" from organized criminal groups and similarly skilled opportunists. Even in LA during the Rodney King riots, "korea town" remained a "no fly zone."

Obviously there would be "very blue" zones that only a complete fool would attempt to infiltrate (just as the koreans didn't try and overrun Compton), but if cut off and isolated they would pretty much become their own biggest problem.

This sounds pretty accurate. The left-wing rioters, even the hardcore ones, are really good at fighting inanimate objects. We’ve seen time and time again- take the guy with a pistol who disarmed a rioter who stole a patrol rifle from a burning cop car. Dude likes like he was frozen while the crowds ran for their life and not even a single shot was fired. Even in Milwaukee, when the shooting started a majority ran. Rioters are used to attacking structures and dealing with police who are bound by the requirements of using non-lethal force. I imagine this is also partly why we see the majority of serious rioting in business districts. It’s one thing to throw a Molotov cocktail at someone’s unoccupied business, it’s a totally different ball game to try to throw one at someone’s house with a person ready and willing to commit homicide to protect their family and home.