"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass."
Japanese Admiral Yamamoto, 1941
"A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but a foolish man's heart directs him toward the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2:
The brace zealots always act like $200 is a lot of money like it was in 1934 and that 10-30 days for a form 1 to return is "enduring long wait times".
Since their inception, which was like 2013, there has been a cloud of confusion over the legality of braces, legality of shouldering them, what kind of fore grip can be added and which one will get your dog, your 14 year old son, and your wife shot in the face while she's holding a baby. It's 2022 and there are still dudes out here fretting over this upcoming brace ruling. Some are problem losing sleep over it. They often give a "frum muh cold ded hands" speech about their brace, but if that were true they'd already have a stock on it to begin with. Nobody is gonna keep their brace if they make them illegal.
A SBR allows you to put whatever optic, whatever stock, grip, or coffee maker on your gun that you see fit. "bUt mUh cRoSsIn sTaTe lInEs" lmao just fill out the form ahead of time, it's good for a year. The brace weirdos always make this stuff out to be a bigger deal than it is.
I may be missing the point totally here, so correct if wrong, but not clear as to relevance of the registered aspect there. Registered or not, it will be evidence no? Evidence they may simply note as part of the event or evidence they will take, depending on the legal variables.
And what he said!
- Will
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“Those who do not view armed self defense as a basic human right, ignore the mass graves of those who died on their knees at the hands of tyrants.”
I'm a bit of one of those, but not for those reasons. It really sticks in my craw to pay the gubment for permission to own an SBR. Two, you're now that much deeper into their system as to what you own and why. That's the same reason I have yet to get a can, paying for the honor if protecting my hearing to keep the ATF in biz...
At this point, via other threads on the topic, I'm just going to have to get over it and get the can. On the former, so far, pistol set up that does not require the stamp of gubment "approval" is more than sufficient.
That could change too, don't know.
- Will
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“Those who do not view armed self defense as a basic human right, ignore the mass graves of those who died on their knees at the hands of tyrants.”
I don't consider myself a brace zealot, I just don't see an equal quality braced pistol as any less capable than a SBR and a lot less hassle to possess and use and less of an issue if it gets stolen out of my truck. Right now (could all change next month) I don't see a SBR as being worth the squeeze, not because of the money but because you are placing yourself on a registration list. Yes I know we are all likely being tracked but with NFA items you telling big brother exactly what you have and where you have it, guess that's OK if you trust our gov'mt. YMMV
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Does it stick in your craw to pay federal income taxes? Does it stick in your craw to pay for a CPL? Does it stick in your craw to pay the gubment permission to do a whole host of other things that you do on a regular basis? Do you have a drivers license? Do you pay property taxes? Are you happy with the 11% excise tax you pay on firearms? You seek permission plenty, you just kid yourself that you don't.
Also, just so you know...(The $200 tax stamp doesn't keep the ATF in business, they're funded whether anyone pays for tax stamps or not. They don't keep the $200.)
Lol why are you leaving an AR pistol in your truck? That's dumb on many levels. It's also naive to think they have no other means of knowing you possess firearms.
Not equivalents; some you have to pay (unless you're willing to lose your house, go to jail, etc), some you don't. Where I don't have to, and or where I feel they're especially egregious, I don't. And yes, some of what listed sticks in my craw like a mother f-r but that's a different topic.
Last edited by WillBrink; 07-07-22 at 12:14.
- Will
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“Those who do not view armed self defense as a basic human right, ignore the mass graves of those who died on their knees at the hands of tyrants.”
I don't even want to think about how many $200 tax stamps I could buy with our yearly tax burden. I can tell you that one year of what I pay in taxes far exceeds the amount of money I'll ever fork over in $200 increments for NFA purchases over the course of my lifetime.
People think that braces are this giant middle finger to the ATF/govt. They're not. You're still in 100% compliance with the NFA, and in many cases, not much cheaper. A tax stamp and a Magpul MOE will set you back $230. Some braces are more than that and others are in the $130-170 range. There are a few under $100 but those don't seem to be very popular and not the majority of what I see people using.
The whole reason the NFA exists is because they don't want you or I owning SBRs, silencers, and machine guns.
The chances of using a gun in self defense. Especially a rifle, are statistically very low.
If you just shot someone in self defense I’d think losing your gun is the least of your concern, and a small price to pay for saving your own life.
Also one is none and two is one. I’d have a second gun for many reasons. In this case, if you have to use your gun in a legal shooting, you still have another.
Lastly, if you asking ‘can police take a registered firearm in as evidence’ as in can they legally posses it. I’ve heard maybe no. This was in reference to, if police took possession of an illegal supresser in a state they are not legal are they in violation of state law. The answer was that, in the case of this state, the atf would have to come take possession. Maybe that’s the case. However I feel there must be some law in place that makes evidence different. Like it’s in the states possession, not an individual officers.
My city PD were cunts about returning my guns. If they hold or take a gun from you, it's harder to get your gun back from them than it is to buy one from an FFL. Bureaucratic imbeciles.
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