Dinosaurs and the Arctic

[Slater]

Boy, how certain things have changed since I was in grade school in the 1960's. We were told that dinosaurs were cold-blooded reptiles that thrived in a tropical environment. Now scientists are saying that some of them lived in a cold environment (at least for a time) and were insulated by feathers.

Of course, back in the 1960's/early 1970's we were told that another ice age was possibly on the way. Looks like they missed the mark on that one.

"Dinosaurs were there during the Triassic under the radar all the time," lead author Paul Olsen, a professor of biology and paleo environment at Columbia University's Columbia Climate School in New York City, said in a statement. "The key to their eventual dominance was very simple. They were fundamentally cold-adapted animals. When it got cold everywhere, they were ready, and other animals weren't."


https://www.microsoftnewskids.com/en...b82994217be23b

[TomMcC]

Boy, how certain things have changed since I was in grade school in the 1960's. We were told that dinosaurs were cold-blooded reptiles that thrived in a tropical environment. Now scientists are saying that some of them lived in a cold environment (at least for a time) and were insulated by feathers.

Of course, back in the 1960's/early 1970's we were told that another ice age was possibly on the way. Looks like they missed the mark on that one.

"Dinosaurs were there during the Triassic under the radar all the time," lead author Paul Olsen, a professor of biology and paleo environment at Columbia University's Columbia Climate School in New York City, said in a statement. "The key to their eventual dominance was very simple. They were fundamentally cold-adapted animals. When it got cold everywhere, they were ready, and other animals weren't."


https://www.microsoftnewskids.com/en...b82994217be23b

Paleontologists like to spin yarns. Feathered dinosaurs were in the new Jurassic Park movie, it's the new orthodoxy.

[WillBrink]

Boy, how certain things have changed since I was in grade school in the 1960's. We were told that dinosaurs were cold-blooded reptiles that thrived in a tropical environment. Now scientists are saying that some of them lived in a cold environment (at least for a time) and were insulated by feathers.

Of course, back in the 1960's/early 1970's we were told that another ice age was possibly on the way. Looks like they missed the mark on that one.

"Dinosaurs were there during the Triassic under the radar all the time," lead author Paul Olsen, a professor of biology and paleo environment at Columbia University's Columbia Climate School in New York City, said in a statement. "The key to their eventual dominance was very simple. They were fundamentally cold-adapted animals. When it got cold everywhere, they were ready, and other animals weren't."


https://www.microsoftnewskids.com/en...b82994217be23b

Cool stuff. Pretty well accepted that modern birds came from dinosaurs as they have found several species of dinosaurs that had feathers and have found some intermediate animals that looked like dinosaur / bird creatures with feathers. That and other evidence turned much of what was assumed about dinosaurs as simply cold blooded creatures on its head.

[Straight Shooter]

Boy, how certain things have changed since I was in grade school in the 1960's. We were told that dinosaurs were cold-blooded reptiles that thrived in a tropical environment. Now scientists are saying that some of them lived in a cold environment (at least for a time) and were insulated by feathers.

Of course, back in the 1960's/early 1970's we were told that another ice age was possibly on the way. Looks like they missed the mark on that one.

"Dinosaurs were there during the Triassic under the radar all the time," lead author Paul Olsen, a professor of biology and paleo environment at Columbia University's Columbia Climate School in New York City, said in a statement. "The key to their eventual dominance was very simple. They were fundamentally cold-adapted animals. When it got cold everywhere, they were ready, and other animals weren't."


https://www.microsoftnewskids.com/en...b82994217be23b

About everything I was taught in the early 70's & 80's has been changed numerous times. Dino's..age of the Earth/Universe..what is/is not a planet, ect on & on & on.
NEVER-ending guesses, theories..which Ive now heard "theories" actually mean "we know its correct but just cant YET prove it"..and some just completely made up BULLSHIT.
One day, Dino's died from the cold. Next day..they ALL died on the same day from a meteor. Next day..virus. Next day...got too hot. Next day..aliens came & got them. It just chaps their asses they cant admit THEY DONT KNOW, PERIOD. Cause, they dont. All they "know" for sure is the Bible's account is BS, 100% for no doubt.
The more crap they put out, the more I KNOW they are shysters, ad the more I know I believe the Bible over ANYTHING theyll ever say.
Slater- youre a tad older than me, so you too have went thru all the BS changes in "science". One week, we are gonna freeze to death. Next..acid rain is gonna kill errbody.
WAIT- THE OZONE IS GONE..gonna die from radiation. Nope...gonna burn up now. Uh-oh..no..now its just climate "change". Hell that covers it all dont it?
COMPLETE CROCK OF SHIT..ALL OF IT. Remember those grand old Encyclopedia Britannica sets back in the day? We had a whole set I used to read voraciously. Little would be "correct" in them today. I love to let folk believe what they want- what do I care. But they dont CONvence me at all.

[TomMcC]

Cook stuff. Pretty well accepted that modern birds came from dinosaurs as they have found several species of dinosaurs that had feathers and have found some intermediate animals that looked like dinosaur / bird creatures with feathers. That and other evidence turned much of what was assumed about dinosaurs as simply cold blooded creatures on its head.

This all might be accepted in secular scientific circles, probably amongst the culture at large, but is it true? I certainly don't think so. "Accepted" and "true" are obviously different concepts.

[Straight Shooter]

This all might be accepted in secular scientific circles, probably amongst the culture at large, but is it true? I certainly don't think so. "Accepted" and "true" are obviously different concepts.

"Accepted" by the same KOOKS who believe we are living in a "simulation".

[SteyrAUG]

You guys do understand that millions of years ago the land mass called the "arctic" was in a different location and once was a tropical environment yes? Land masses move around over millions of years, it's called plate tectonics, and they are still moving.

There were no ice dinosaurs.

[Diamondback]

Pick up a copy of Gregory Paul's Predatory Dinosaurs of the World. The cladistics are dated, but the skeletal reconstructions still stand on their own merit decades later. It's interesting to see the significant overlap in physiology between "first bird" Archaeopteryx and Velociraptor, even down to A. lithographica having a primitive sickle-claw and a semi-opposable thumb just like the raptors.

This was actually the book that Crichton built the paleobiology science of JP around... and Stan Winston and Crash McCreery used it as their "bible" for designing the '93 and '97 movie carnivores.

[JiminAZ]

There's all kinds of stuff they can't explain. I am typing this from Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, and literally drive by the Beaufort sea on my way to work.

When our drillers drill through the first 1500 feet or so, they are going through permafrost. Guess what's frozen in there. Bits of ferns and conifer branches. I have held one of these little scaly twigs in my own hand. They come up in the drilling mud. These remnants are NOT fossilized, they are frozen. Apparently, not that long ago this place was a temperate northern climate.

Today you won't find a tree until you get well south of the Brooks Range.

In my lifetime, like many of you, I've watched as the narratives have changed or gone full circle. There's stuff that is known (the actual observations) and there's stuff they don't know (the speculative narrative attempts to string the facts together). Unfortunately people feel the need to get dogmatic about speculation. Not sure why people are so uncomfortable with not knowing things and find it so hard to say "we don't know that yet".

[gaijin]

Cool stuff. Pretty well accepted that modern birds came from dinosaurs as they have found several species of dinosaurs that had feathers and have found some intermediate animals that looked like dinosaur / bird creatures with feathers. That and other evidence turned much of what was assumed about dinosaurs as simply cold blooded creatures on its head.

The Cassowary comes to mind. Read something recently of a breeder that was killed by one of his.