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    New to 10.5

    Hey guys, just picked a new to me noveske 10.5 upper, and this is my first real venture into guns shorter than 11.5. I'm planning on using a vltor a5, green spring, standard a5 buffer to start with, m16 profile BCG. Its going to be shot unsuppressed, not planning on putting a can on it. Couple of main questions.

    1. Best flash hider for the short guns? Trying to avoid fireballs and it will be shot under NVG's.

    2. Is the vltor a5 standard buffer going to be g2g for this? I'll be shooting unspressed with quality full power 5.56 ammo, no steel case or cheap 223.

    TIA

    Edit : this rifle will not be a range toy, it will be an HD pistol as well as a vehicle gun so reliability is utmost concern
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    I think pew science did a FH comparison a while ago that was pretty thorough. If you’re not worried about a can, the A2 will probably be hard to beat.

    I haven’t seen much on Noveske’s 10.5 gas ports. Kind of hard to say about buffers and all that without knowing that detail. Even my conservatively gassed 10.5s are running A5H2s or 3s with .223. But I ditched green springs so that changes it slightly. I’d start with the A5H2 and then go from there but wouldn’t be shocked if the H3 or H4 consistently locks back on empty with actual 5.56.


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    Any particular reason you ditched the green spring? I know they're not the best in maritime environments from a corrosion perspective. But was there a reliability concern?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    I think pew science did a FH comparison a while ago that was pretty thorough. If you’re not worried about a can, the A2 will probably be hard to beat.

    I haven’t seen much on Noveske’s 10.5 gas ports. Kind of hard to say about buffers and all that without knowing that detail. Even my conservatively gassed 10.5s are running A5H2s or 3s with .223. But I ditched green springs so that changes it slightly. I’d start with the A5H2 and then go from there but wouldn’t be shocked if the H3 or H4 consistently locks back on empty with actual 5.56.


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    It was TTAG that did that comparison.

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    Vltor A5 will be great. I'd stick with a the USGI spring.

    Flash reduction will be somewhat ammo specific. The blackout or vortex flash hiders are probably your best bet, but with really flashy ammo, you'll fight it no matter which FH you get.
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    I have a 10.5 ARP w/0.070 port, Vltor A5 with Springco green, and LAW folder. Running IMI X193 unsuppressed it fails to pick up a round sometimes. Suppressed it hasn’t malfunctioned, nice & smooth & minimal gas in the face. Since I pretty much always shoot it suppressed & at the range, I’m ok with the current set up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by danieljmaunder View Post
    Any particular reason you ditched the green spring? I know they're not the best in maritime environments from a corrosion perspective. But was there a reliability concern?
    It was a bit finicky with my KAC Mod 2.

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    It was TTAG that did that comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    I think pew science did a FH comparison a while ago that was pretty thorough. If you’re not worried about a can, the A2 will probably be hard to beat.

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    That has been my experience with all my 11.5 and 10.3 barrel ARs. But honestly when running NV, if you aren't running suppressed you are going to get flash.

    Here are the TTAG tests mentioned earlier.

    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ar...ider-shootout/

    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ar...hiding-test-2/

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    The B.E. Meyers fh is the best one I've seen but I don't think they make them anymore. Smith Vortex also seems well regarded. Prong style flash hiders seem to work better than birdcage style hiders, in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    That has been my experience with all my 11.5 and 10.3 barrel ARs. But honestly when running NV, if you aren't running suppressed you are going to get flash.

    Here are the TTAG tests mentioned earlier.

    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ar...ider-shootout/

    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ar...hiding-test-2/

    That's from 7 years ago.
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