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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Shooter View Post
    Even if one of the bastards were wounded during fighting, they were ostracized? That wouldnt have been a badge of honor?
    If you die, you are glorious. If you are wounded, obviously Allah thinks you deserve to suffer and everyone should shun you.

    Honor in your understanding of the word is incompatible with islam. Japanese honor codes are closer to our own and even those can require some mental gymnastics to wrap your brain around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    If you die, you are glorious. If you are wounded, obviously Allah thinks you deserve to suffer and everyone should shun you.

    Honor in your understanding of the word is incompatible with islam. Japanese honor codes are closer to our own and even those can require some mental gymnastics to wrap your brain around.
    100% correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    Not at all. M1 carbines were carried by police and volunteers in the police. But far from the towns and cities of the Palestinians
    Thanks for clearing that up for me. I knew about the .22lr usage because a former boss and their family talked about it. I was not so sure about the m1 carbine, beyond the fact some folks used them for protection, which impressed a friend of mine when he went on his first trip. He owns one and the man on the bus pulling guard/tour guide duty used one; so, they bonded over that fact.
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    Being a disabled person I find it sad they treat such people poorly. A measuring stick of civilization could be based upon how well the elderly and infirm are treated.

    In the context of becoming crippled due to fighting for you and yours. I find it even more deplorable that such folks are despised. That does go against everything I was raised to believe. A man who endured life changing wounds in battle is to be respected. After-all he put it all on the line for everybody and their betterment. I guess being resource poor changes a culture? Or does this attitude stretch back to biblical times? (I mean the time period and not religion)

    One question that kinda puts a monkey wrench in that psyop. Don’t they use the handicapped, mentally impaired, and terminally ill for suicidal terrorist attacks? I read a article once during the Iraq war that they were using people with aids for suicide bombers. Give them like a fun day, strap them up, and then send them off to die or some evil garbage.
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    I’ve been chewing on building an integrally suppressed 10//22 for a while.

    My hangup is that the action noise will still seem loud. Years ago I remember reading about a bolt that is quieter. Anyone know anything about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBRSarge View Post
    I’ve been chewing on building an integrally suppressed 10//22 for a while.

    My hangup is that the action noise will still seem loud. Years ago I remember reading about a bolt that is quieter. Anyone know anything about that?
    What is the mission for the rifle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiservontexas View Post
    Being a disabled person I find it sad they treat such people poorly. A measuring stick of civilization could be based upon how well the elderly and infirm are treated.

    In the context of becoming crippled due to fighting for you and yours. I find it even more deplorable that such folks are despised. That does go against everything I was raised to believe. A man who endured life changing wounds in battle is to be respected. After-all he put it all on the line for everybody and their betterment. I guess being resource poor changes a culture? Or does this attitude stretch back to biblical times? (I mean the time period and not religion)

    One question that kinda puts a monkey wrench in that psyop. Don’t they use the handicapped, mentally impaired, and terminally ill for suicidal terrorist attacks? I read a article once during the Iraq war that they were using people with aids for suicide bombers. Give them like a fun day, strap them up, and then send them off to die or some evil garbage.
    Islam is very much "Allah's will" so whenever anything happens, it was the will of god and there must be a good reason. Everything in Islam is about acceptance of "Allah's will", the word itself means "submission." So if you find food, but your house burns down and the neighboring village steal your children it ALL must accepted as "God's will" and he must be praised.

    This is why they are "Allah Akbar" all day long no matter what is happening. Ironically, Buddhist can be pretty close to this mindset. IF somebody is born handicapped, they feel compassion but at the same time believe that person is suffering because of what they did in a former life and this is their karmic punishment.

    What it comes down to is the oldest civilizations weren't terribly civilized and if they haven't undergone some kind of renaissance in thinking, they are still as messed up as people were thousands of years ago when murder, rape and victimizing the weak were just the name of the game. We view the Greeks and the Romans through a friendly lens and remember only the accomplishments that were good, but at the same time they thought being triumphant over your enemies was how you proved yourself to the gods, nobody cared about right and wrong...only who won....because obviously that person had the favor of the gods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBRSarge View Post
    I’ve been chewing on building an integrally suppressed 10//22 for a while.

    My hangup is that the action noise will still seem loud. Years ago I remember reading about a bolt that is quieter. Anyone know anything about that?
    So I have two of them. You hear three clicks, the discharge, the bolt and the impact of the round. All three make about the same amount of noise even when shooting subsonic. "Pew pew" only happens in Hollywood.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Bolt action .22lr would make for a very quiet rifle suppressed. The first time I ever had any experience with a suppressed .22lr was a marlin model 60, and the bolt clacking, what I called the noise of it, surprised me with how loud it was cycling. Granted that noise was nowhere near the sound of a unsuppressed rifle, and part of the reason why it stuck out so much for me was due to the surprise of it. But if I was going for as quiet as possible it would be a bolt action or break action rifle; however, those lack the utility of a semiautomatic rifle for follow up shots. I still need to get a can one day.
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    Thanks SteyrAUG, I got my head wrapped around it now.
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