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    Buying a can from a normal dealer?

    Silencer Shop and Capitol Armory have pretty detailed "how to's." What happens when you buy a can from an online dealer that isn't one of those? I assume its similar to buying a gun that would go to an FFL but instead, it gets sent to a local NFA/CL 3/SOT/whateveritscalled after a Form 3 is completed? And then from there, the local dealer does the Form 4 and all of that mess?

    Assuming all of that is correct, what if the local dealer is part of the SS network? Will everything then be run through them like if you'd bought from SS directly?
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    I have bought a can from a third party (e.g., Mile High Shooters Supply in Colorado), had Form 3 xfer done to my local FFL, then did the process through Silencer Shop at my local dealer.

    Bought my stamp through the Silencer Shop account, dealer handled the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    Silencer Shop and Capitol Armory have pretty detailed "how to's." What happens when you buy a can from an online dealer that isn't one of those? I assume its similar to buying a gun that would go to an FFL but instead, it gets sent to a local NFA/CL 3/SOT/whateveritscalled after a Form 3 is completed? And then from there, the local dealer does the Form 4 and all of that mess?

    Assuming all of that is correct, what if the local dealer is part of the SS network? Will everything then be run through them like if you'd bought from SS directly?
    Actually don't know how things work with Silencer Shop, but yeah, you need a FFL with a SOT. Assuming they don't have what you are looking for in stock, your purchase with Form 3 to them and then they will Form 4 it to you. Ask FIRST what they charge to do a Form 4, usually it's quite a bit more than what most charge for a 4473 transfer.

    I knew a few guys who charged $200 to do a Form 4 and most people assumed that $200 was the NFA tax, then they discovered it was $200 for the Form 4 transfer AND $200 to the ATF for the NFA tax.
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    I recently purchased two cans through two separate local shops which were both part of the Silencer Shop network. The cans and the stamps were both purchased through Silencer Shop, the dealers handled the Form 3's and facilitated the transfers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Actually don't know how things work with Silencer Shop, but yeah, you need a FFL with a SOT. Assuming they don't have what you are looking for in stock, your purchase with Form 3 to them and then they will Form 4 it to you. Ask FIRST what they charge to do a Form 4, usually it's quite a bit more than what most charge for a 4473 transfer.

    I knew a few guys who charged $200 to do a Form 4 and most people assumed that $200 was the NFA tax, then they discovered it was $200 for the Form 4 transfer AND $200 to the ATF for the NFA tax.
    One of the local shops used to charge $125 for NFA transfers but now charge the same $25 for everything. I don't know if they encountered pushback or why they made the change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Actually don't know how things work with Silencer Shop, but yeah, you need a FFL with a SOT. Assuming they don't have what you are looking for in stock, your purchase with Form 3 to them and then they will Form 4 it to you. Ask FIRST what they charge to do a Form 4, usually it's quite a bit more than what most charge for a 4473 transfer.

    I knew a few guys who charged $200 to do a Form 4 and most people assumed that $200 was the NFA tax, then they discovered it was $200 for the Form 4 transfer AND $200 to the ATF for the NFA tax.
    Only $200? Shooters World in Tampa, FL charged $300. LOL
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    my experience if I remember correctly is it takes more time of any already effing long time, and cost more. Its a PITA. I only buy cans from places I can walk in and see the cans, not everyone has that opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurodriver View Post
    Only $200? Shooters World in Tampa, FL charged $300. LOL
    So given the markup on suppressors (usually about $50 and I'm not kidding) most SOTs make their money on the Form 4s.

    NFA stuff isn't a short term money maker, obviously the money is in transferable machine guns but you have to hold them for awhile to make any real money, there isn't such a thing as a dealer price. What I pay for a transferable is what everyone else pays.

    SBRs can stand a little markup, but not a lot. People already cry about the $200 NFA tax, if you even attempt to sell at or near MSRP people will just opt for a Title I firearm which never sell for MSRP unless it's during a full on panic buy.

    Anyone who has ever tried to sell their used suppressor knows how limited that market is, factor in TWO Form 4 transfers and you can't even give them away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    Silencer Shop and Capitol Armory have pretty detailed "how to's." What happens when you buy a can from an online dealer that isn't one of those? I assume its similar to buying a gun that would go to an FFL but instead, it gets sent to a local NFA/CL 3/SOT/whateveritscalled after a Form 3 is completed? And then from there, the local dealer does the Form 4 and all of that mess?

    Assuming all of that is correct, what if the local dealer is part of the SS network? Will everything then be run through them like if you'd bought from SS directly?
    That second paragraph is how my last purchase worked, the LGS loaded it into their SS inventory somehow and ever after that was the standard SS process. At leas that’s the impression I got.


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