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1. What is the real story on the ‘merchant of death’ that this seems to be all about.
2. It may be blind luck, but pinching this lady for a prisoner swap could be viewed as a pretty sophisticated. Having an American hating social warrior as the hostage splits the US population. She is also a perfect victim for the left and can’t be ignored by Biden. Either they get their guy back, or they add another fissure to the us society.
The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.
It's that simple.
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Addicts never 'forget' if they they have their dope or not. Try again...Originally Posted by The Dumb Gun Collector
They also don't 'forget' the stuff is not legal everywhere.
She gets what she deserves and hope she enjoys her stay in Russian detention.
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Strange, that’s not like you to agree with the Russians.
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I think it's more a commentary on dopers than Russians and I tend to agree with him. If she did the same thing in Turkey, it would be about her dope and not Turkey.
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Why is Griner getting a White House priority, shouldn't she stand in line with other Americans that have been in the same boat for longer?
I guess they don't give a crap about white teachers, just black dyke "celeb" types.
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Gettin' down innagrass.
Let's Go Brandon!
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You guys are ignoring the fact that this isn’t “do the crime do the time.” This is, find an American who has broken the law and blow out the charges for leverage. Our government is currently doing something similar to various Jan 5 protesters. Did they break the law? Some yes. Are they getting outsized sentences for political reasons? Yes.
If she wasn’t American this wouldn’t be happening. Period. I understand we dislike her, but it doesn’t change the fact that this is Russia F’ing with us, not “just deserts” for some lefty lesbian who forgot to take her meds out of her bag.
Why is Griner getting a White House priority, shouldn't she stand in line with other Americans that have been in the same boat for longer?
I guess they don't give a crap about white teachers, just black dyke "celeb" types.
'Forgotten' American Schoolteacher Was Jailed With Brittney Griner In Russia
US teacher in Russian jail may be pregnant, friend says
Lawmakers and community members push for Marc Fogel to be freed from Russian detainment
Absolutely! We can all agree that people in the public sphere get more attention. That's just reality. In fact, this lady's arrest is a blessing to these other people. Until the Russians scooped up a ...cough, celebrity nobody was paying attention. As I have said before, I would put her last on the list somewhere near lost luggage. My problem is the fact that people seem to be ignoring the fact that the Russians are taking Americans hostage .
Let those who are fond of blaming and finding fault, while they sit safely at home, ask, ‘Why did you not do thus and so?’I wish they were on this voyage; I well believe that another voyage of a different kind awaits them.”
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"Midnight Express" comes to mind.
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I didn't ignore it, I agree, and you're probably correct. Actually a good point. However, she should be last in the queue behind others who have been held longer (I know you agree with that). I mean literally though......if offered a "trade" for the racist lesbian I would say "We want XXX, then the next, and so on chronologically."
McCain was supposedly offered release (since his dad was CINPAC) and declined until the longer-held POW's went first. If true it is one the few things I admire about him, although my dislike is for strictly political reasons and not for his military time and what he went through. Griner wouldn't have such a shred of integrity, guaranteed. She'd probably say "Let them white folks rot over here, I'm important and I'm out".
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Had she followed the laws of the country she voluntarily went to and was jailed, then you would be correct, she would be a hostage.
Did they give her a max sentence, yep just like human (read non liberal legislate from the bench types) do all the time here in the USofA.
This lady in Russia went voluntarily, broke the law and can rot over there for all I care.
Don't go to foreign countries that you know do this type of thing and break the damn law. It really is that simple.
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