Jones to pay many millions...

[LowSpeed_HighDrag]

One aspect is this is an attack on the 1st Amendment. This will set precedence. Remember, it's very easy to attack and not mind an attack on someone you don't like. First it will be Alex, then who next? Mark Levin? Steve Crowder? Shapiro? It's going to slowly get there and is a shame.

No...this is a civil case from parents who were tired of being defamed by an asshole after their children were murdered.

[okie]

One aspect is this is an attack on the 1st Amendment. This will set precedence. Remember, it's very easy to attack and not mind an attack on someone you don't like. First it will be Alex, then who next? Mark Levin? Steve Crowder? Shapiro? It's going to slowly get there and is a shame.

I'm not sure how it's being interpreted as an attack on the first amendment. Slander and libel have always been punishable in civil court all the way back to the very founding and before.

The only way this could be interpreted as an attack on the first amendment is if the accusations they made against the parents were true, or if at least the parents couldn't prove that the accusations were false. As it stands, the accusations were demonstrably false, and the parents could obviously easily prove they were false. And the fact that Jones is a credentialed, professional journalist with decades of experience makes his reporting on this pretty egregious from the standpoint of negligence. In other words, even if he wholeheartedly believed what he was saying at the time, he was negligent for not investigating the claims before reporting on them.

Were Jones just a tinfoil hat wearing guy on YouTube who wasn't in a position to know better, or to profit, this would be a whole different matter. It's like how you can get on YouTube and accuse specific astronauts of lying about going to the moon, vs. if a credentialed journalist did it they would be getting sued for defamation, for several reasons. One, they knew better. Two, they profited from the defamatory statements. And three, they had the credibility and audience to harm the victim reputationally (this is where I think the Jones case goes off the rails a bit, because he really has less than zero credibility and therefore lacks the ability to harm anyone reputationally, at least outside of his own conspiracy circle).

[Diamondback]

Jones is a loudmouth and a jackass for sure. BUT, that's why the Left picked him as the Test Case for their new strategies, starting with Deplatforming. What they can do to the most vile and odious of us they can do at will to ANY of us.

Look into that big speech from Sir Thomas More in "A Man For All Seasons."

[HKGuns]

Most of his testimony, that I could stomach to watch, showed him to be the stupid, loudmouthed ass he is in real life. He's a liar and a clown and deserves everything he gets.

He was actually STUPID enough to accuse the judge hearing the case of being part of a pedophile ring. That takes some serious stupid right there.

The only reason I paid any attention is I have a good and otherwise intelligent buddy, who thinks this cat is all knowing. I've never listend to him myself, but I saw all I needed when he was on the stand.

[SteyrAUG]

Jones is a loudmouth and a jackass for sure. BUT, that's why the Left picked him as the Test Case for their new strategies, starting with Deplatforming. What they can do to the most vile and odious of us they can do at will to ANY of us.

Look into that big speech from Sir Thomas More in "A Man For All Seasons."

And in the 80s conservatives went after Larry Flynt. In the Flynt case it was much easier to argue "satire" and the victim was Falwell. Obviously Flynt's goal was to cause harm for profits, but he seems to have picked his targets better than Jones. Jones entire premise is that "this is real" and he went after the parents of dead kids for shock and profits. I think they ruled correctly, this guy is well withing Fred Phelps territory and needed to be smacked.

It is a test case for sure but I think it tested fine. I wouldn't want the Black Nation of Islam to be able to go on the radio and say "Allah killed all those kids because all white kids are essentially evil." There are limits to what you can broadcast on mass media.

[Diamondback]

And in the 80s conservatives went after Larry Flynt. In the Flynt case it was much easier to argue "satire" and the victim was Falwell. Obviously Flynt's goal was to cause harm for profits, but he seems to have picked his targets better than Jones. Jones entire premise is that "this is real" and he went after the parents of dead kids for shock and profits. I think they ruled correctly, this guy is well withing Fred Phelps territory and needed to be smacked.

It is a test case for sure but I think it tested fine. I wouldn't want the Black Nation of Islam to be able to go on the radio and say "Allah killed all those kids because all white kids are essentially evil." There are limits to what you can broadcast on mass media.

I'm not saying Jones doesn't DESERVE a stomping-on--I'm just looking at the Pandora's Box of "precedent," much as I did in my opposition to the Patriot Act that the drooling-tard Shrubhumpers took as a Guinness Class Assblast from front-row-center in the middle of their highest and holiest of Masses.

"Hard cases make bad law."

[SteyrAUG]

I'm not saying Jones doesn't DESERVE a stomping-on--I'm just looking at the Pandora's Box of "precedent," much as I did in my opposition to the Patriot Act that the drooling-tard Shrubhumpers took as a Guinness Class Assblast from front-row-center in the middle of their highest and holiest of Masses.

"Hard cases make bad law."

Completely agree on Patriot Act, but that was a NEW law. Libel has been an existing law for a long time and I think even Jones knew he was crossing the line but was just testing the waters to see how far he could push his BS before getting called on it. He's just another shock jock, he's Howard Stern without any of the entertaining parts. Jones is a shit magnet who makes crazy, insane and fringe people feel vindicated in their ridiculous beliefs.

[LowSpeed_HighDrag]

I'm not saying Jones doesn't DESERVE a stomping-on--I'm just looking at the Pandora's Box of "precedent," much as I did in my opposition to the Patriot Act that the drooling-tard Shrubhumpers took as a Guinness Class Assblast from front-row-center in the middle of their highest and holiest of Masses.

"Hard cases make bad law."

Can you cite the new precedent set in this case that worries you?

[markm]

Can you cite the new precedent set in this case that worries you?

They were already laying the foundation for this on the local news this morning. (Discussion about losers suing over what people say)

The settlement/award was for punishment according to the Lawyer. It basically sets the stage for every lunatic libtard to sue if anything contradictory to their agenda is said.

I don't know much about Alex Jones, but it strikes me on the surface that a bunch of scumbags are making money of the death of the kids. I hope they rot for that!

[WillBrink]

They were already laying the foundation for this on the local news this morning. (Discussion about losers suing over what people say)

The settlement/award was for punishment according to the Lawyer. It basically sets the stage for every lunatic libtard to sue if anything contradictory to their agenda is said.

I don't know much about Alex Jones,

Then you may want to look into that one.

but it strikes me on the surface that a bunch of scumbags are making money of the death of the kids. I hope they rot for that!

That would be Jones in this case. Those who sued deserve ever penny and then some. Losing a kid in a shooting and then having some POS like Jones endlessly claiming it never happened, kids were all actors, etc, etc, they had a Right to finally have enough and go after that POS. I hope Jones is left without a penny, loses his homes, etc.

I knew several from the CT SWAT team that arrived on scene, several were never able to return to work after what they saw.

Having said all that, per OP, I'm still concerned how such a case could impact Free Speech, but the more I see and learn the details, less concerned I am about it. We all supported the kid who went after CNN for clear libel and I don't recall anyone here raising any concerns about Free Speech over it, as we all knew CNN was lying crap media, who deserved to be sued for what they did to him.

What Jones did was a million times worse. Per OP, he got on my radar after the Boston bombings.