The Nazi's would have simply had the Ukrainian division of the Waffen SS run things for them like they did in every other country.
Eventually Germany would have delayed us in the Pacific. The final result likely being an atomic bombing of Berlin.
And while Putin is obviously not a very nice person, we've allied with bad people throughout the 20th century, and if ever there was a time to work things out, it was right after 9-11 when they reached out. Rather than bring them in as a true partner in the war on terror (and giving them a free hand to sort things out in Chechnya) Bush (43) decided instead to call them out on human rights issues as if that is going to get us anywhere with radical muslims.
I know we really screwed them in Afghanistan, and it was payback for Vietnam, but if we gave them eastern Afghanistan as a "zone of influence" there wouldn't be a Taliban today. And yes I realize the irony Germany and Russia dividing up Poland prior to WWII but not exactly the same thing.
It would not have been difficult for a thinking President to establish who gets what in terms of the Middle East and then just respect the damn agreement. But instead Bush 43 decided to "rescue" Iraq even though it was already the closest thing to a secular democracy as the ME is capable of being and that is why Reagan allied with them in the first damn place.
Instead we played stupid games that resulted in Obama managing to reignite the Cold War over Syria of all the damn places in the world. Nearly every gain paid for in BLOOD was lost to ISIS and all we really accomplished is changing Iraq from a Sunni controlled state to a Shia controlled state where Iran has a lot more influence.
Sure we killed a lot of bad guys, but Iraq and Afghanistan are saturated with bad guys, plenty more willing to take their place. It's like eliminating the Crips "Class of 87" and thinking you have rescued LA from gang violence.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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