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Thread: OIF/OEF Veterans. Technical Lessons Learned wanted

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    I served in both theaters, USMC i carried the Trusty M-16A4 never had problems with it. Keep it clean and used militec, as far as stopping power we were issued Mk262 with performed very well. I really liked the sappi carriers as well much more agility with them. When it comes to knockdown power i really do not understand it too much on these forums. I have seen people get back up after 7.62 and 5.56, and have also seen one stop shots. It really is all about shot placement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve--oh View Post
    Let's see if I can not f*** this up.
    When I was at Ranger school it was a good way to take a short halt, the first squad stops in a file, |, 2nd squad files to the right and sort of "bows" out, ), and the third squad does the same on the left, (. Everybody faces out. (|). Weapons squad moves guns to front, rear, and a likely avenue of approach. Leaders make their way up and down the lines assigning sectors and quickly checking their guys before meeting in the middle to discuss whatever caused the halt.

    Thus, you've got front and rear security (the first squad is facing forward and to the rear plus gun teams) and security to both sides.

    It was also really good in Afghanistan for when you're patrolling the mountains and you crest a ridge, your dudes are smoked and need a minute to take a knee and drink water before pushing on. You can also use it as a sort of hasty patrol base with some quick modifications. I liked it because it was so simple that it required minimal training and you could do it when you hadn't slept for a couple days and were fueled by ripits and clif bars. There's so few moving pieces.
    You pretty much nailed it. We starting training on it quite often when one of our squad leaders came back from ranger school and we got another on deployment who came from rtb. That was exactly their thoughts, for use in afghan. Applies elsewhere as well.
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    A roll up of rifle set-ups currently being used; Defense Review


    http://www.defensereview.com/tactica...bat-crossover/

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalker3 View Post
    -Many armorers suck, learn about the gun from a reputable source, and listen to them.
    this is very true... most armorers don't know jack about the weapons they issue out and have no idea about proper maintenance. by mtoe they also double as supply clerks so really their focus is elsewhere half the time anyways
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOOSTjunkie View Post
    this is very true... most armorers don't know jack about the weapons they issue out and have no idea about proper maintenance. by mtoe they also double as supply clerks so really their focus is elsewhere half the time anyways
    I think I missed it, but exactly which branch are we talking about?

    USMC they are dedicated armorers. You get idiots in any field, so you'll find them there as well but on the average you'll get a competent armorer. In my experience, if in an infantry battalion, they get a lot of hands-on time behind the weapons when they go out to the ranges with the companies. This really helps an armorer with practical knowledge about the weapon platform besides technical and maintenance data. More armorers need to do this...at any organizational level!

    ....now if we could only keep the grunts from performing unauthorized maintenance and breaking things because they thought the armorers were useless...

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    How're you dudes getting G19s over there?
    We miss you, AC.
    We miss you, ToddG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    How're you dudes getting G19s over there?
    Only G19s in Iraq that I knew of belong to CAG or given to the Iraqi Police. Saw a few in Astan belong to OGAs/contractors, none in a US uniform.


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    When I was training Iraqi's I rocked the Glock 19. Granted it was one of the extras floating around in case one broke. Still had to have the M9.

    Found a Glock mag in one of my bags when I got back to Fort Polk from Iraq.

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    So basically it's kind of a ''I found it, and started carrying it'' thing?
    We miss you, AC.
    We miss you, ToddG.

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    On the subject of pistols I hope that the Army will eventually figure out that the M9 needs to replaced. I would like to see the Glock 21 SF take its place or a similar pistol that has a hi capacity .45 ACP platform.

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