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    Quote Originally Posted by kaltesherz View Post
    Can you provide a link that isn't just a bunch of random people speculating? I also have a hard time seeing Uncle Sam issuing a pistol to regular Joes that doesn't have an active safety.
    The M11 (SIG 228) doesn't have that active safety. Neither did the other top M9 competior the SIG 226.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combat_Diver View Post
    The M11 (SIG 228) doesn't have that active safety. Neither did the other top M9 competior the SIG 226.

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    Very true, you think I'd remember that. I guess I'll rephrase that to I have a hard time seeing Uncle Same issuing a pistol with a 4.5 lb trigger and no active safety to regular Joes. Not like the Big Army already doesn't make everyone with a sidearm carry in cond orange, i.e. loaded mag with empty chamber...

    We've been hearing that they're going to replace the M9 with a .45 for years, yet I've never seen any real proof that it's going to happen other than the Joint Combat Pistol which was killed long ago. Given today's budget issues, a new military-wide pistol in a much more expensive caliber, after buying mags, holsters, mag pouches, replacement parts... yeah...

    Wait, aren't we talking about OEF/OIF? **** I got sidetracked, my bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by gew98 View Post
    Retarded ?. My good friend whom does gov't contract small arms repair/rebuild to factory spec has handled and worked on the various pistols submitted to replace the 9mm M9 junker. The FN was far ahead of the pack and all pistols submitted were 45 caliber. FN is in the top three along with Springfield and Glock. There are about a dozen competing. All are 45s. Any of this on the ongoing trials is available on the dang web. The latest report the DOD did on wound ballistics killed the 9mm's future as a military round.
    Now that being said it would not surprise me in these economic times with our fearless golfer in chief that the whole thing may get canned and our troops will be stuck with the wop wondernine.
    That's why it's retarded. Not because it's FNH, but because it's in .45.

    .45, and 9x19mm Para do very similar terminal ballistics. Especially in FMJ format.

    Oh, and if Springfield got in the top three then I definitely know the test is either

    A.) ****ed up.
    B.) A hoax.
    C.) A marketing ploy.
    D.) All of the above.

    If HK doesn't win any military contract for .45 ACP pistols. Then I know the test is either faked, or rigged.

    Why? Because HK designs their guns around military contracts, and we've already adopted HK pistols in small numbers among SF units. I have a hard time imagining the FNX, or XD, or even Glock (my favorite) to be a better service pistol than the HK 45, in that caliber.

    In 9x19mm however.. I have a hard time seeing them not choosing Glock or SIG.

    This is all speculation of course...
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    Quote Originally Posted by USMC8531RET View Post
    M9 Pistol is worthless with M882 Ball. Solution: M1911A1 with M1911 Ball. Upgrade the sights and install amb. safety. Double action is over-rated. .45 ACP is not.
    You know the guy I shot in Iraq with my M9 didn't seem to feel that way.

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    Well shot placement is everything. Sounds like you made a good shot.

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    No substitute for good leadership and supervision

    All the high speed gear in the world isn't worth a damn unless you have a team of men who train with it until they can do tac reloads in their sleep and are properly supervised by experienced NCOs. With that said, the best rec I can give is get rid of the direct imp gas system on our M4/M16s. Look into creating a mod and installing a simple piston system such as Adam's Arms. The benefits are clear to anyone who has used one, the time spent maintaining and cleaning them (both on the support and operator levels) would be greatly reduced. They extend barrel life, enhance reliability, and are simple to install. There is NOTHING WRONG with the M4 system, this would only enhance it's lethality and reliability. The main issue that I have seen across the board is troops not taking care of their weapon, prev maint. is easy to do and takes about 10 min a day. Hence the reason I mentioned supervision before any suggestions to change the gear....

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    You gotta be shitting me, LiveFree You ask this question and turn around and ****ing recommend piston conversions for the troops? So do you know what you're talking about or not?

    Also, I really hope you rate what you put on your avatar. I haven't met many dual cool armorers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveFreeOrDie2111 View Post
    All the high speed gear in the world isn't worth a damn unless you have a team of men who train with it until they can do tac reloads in their sleep and are properly supervised by experienced NCOs. With that said, the best rec I can give is get rid of the direct imp gas system on our M4/M16s. Look into creating a mod and installing a simple piston system such as Adam's Arms. The benefits are clear to anyone who has used one, the time spent maintaining and cleaning them (both on the support and operator levels) would be greatly reduced. They extend barrel life, enhance reliability, and are simple to install. There is NOTHING WRONG with the M4 system, this would only enhance it's lethality and reliability. The main issue that I have seen across the board is troops not taking care of their weapon, prev maint. is easy to do and takes about 10 min a day. Hence the reason I mentioned supervision before any suggestions to change the gear....
    Wow...This statement screams ignorance at the top of your lungs.
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    If you consider a chest device cool, very well. I started out as an armorer, carried the MOS as a secondary just not as active in the community, I re enlisted back in 06 took the indoc and spent the next four year in 1st Recon where, yes I did earn the wings and bubble. I posted that question out of complete randomness, I've been trying to get access to the EE on here, sent an email to the administrator who said I needed to post 30 random posts before access would open. So, I sat here last night typing random questions that would have easy answers, woke up this morning and saw the above post, a figured I'd add my two cents. After all isn't that what an open forum is about? Honestly this entire website is still a bit confusing to me the way it's setup, I'm not a very computer savvy person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveFreeOrDie2111 View Post
    If you consider a chest device cool, very well. I started out as an armorer, carried the MOS as a secondary just not as active in the community, I re enlisted back in 06 took the indoc and spent the next four year in 1st Recon where, yes I did earn the wings and bubble. I posted that question out of complete randomness, I've been trying to get access to the EE on here, sent an email to the administrator who said I needed to post 30 random posts before access would open. So, I sat here last night typing random questions that would have easy answers, woke up this morning and saw the above post, a figured I'd add my two cents. After all isn't that what an open forum is about? Honestly this entire website is still a bit confusing to me the way it's setup, I'm not a very computer savvy person.
    Having a wicked sense of humor, I now notice your post count has regressed to 29.

    Admitting that you are just inflating your post count to get on EE is one of those "bad things to do" on the internet forum.

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