AZ cops taze, arrest parents trying to get their kids after gunman reported at school

[tn1911]

AZ police tase 2 parents and arrest another for allegedly trying to get their kids from grade school where armed intruder was reported

https://www.theblaze.com/news/el-mir...rents-arrested

Reports of armed intruder prompt lockdown at El Mirage school; suspect arrested

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/th...armed-intruder

According to police, three parents were arrested for allegedly trying to force their way onto school campus during the lockdown.

Investigators said parents were not allowed on campus during the lockdown, and as a result of a physical confrontation to parents, police used a stun device on a man and a woman. One of the three arrested could face felony charges because he had a gun on him as he was trying to get on campus to get his child.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

What else would you expect when the first thought is that the cops are going to let my kids die, and the second is that cops lie. I'm actually surprised that the cops didn't get shot. Probably only because no one heard shots.

[1168]

>Gunman reported
>Dude with a gun tries to run the blockade
>Cops stop him
>Surprised Pikachu face; cops are bad

[Buncheong]

Children enrolled in government-run “schools.”

This was the parents’ first mistake ^

[SteyrAUG]

>Gunman reported
>Dude with a gun tries to run the blockade
>Cops stop him
>Surprised Pikachu face; cops are bad

All true, but given the current post Uvalde environment, it's to be expected and I'd probably do the same.

LEOs are now officially in a "can't win" situation. Eventually a parent is gonna shoot a cop in the belief that it is what will be necessary to save their kids or a cop is gonna shoot a parent who believes nobody else is gonna save their kids.

[OutofBatt3ry]

All true, but given the current post Uvalde environment, it's to be expected and I'd probably do the same.

LEOs are now officially in a "can't win" situation. Eventually a parent is gonna shoot a cop in the belief that it is what will be necessary to save their kids or a cop is gonna shoot a parent who believes nobody else is gonna save their kids.

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[Leaveammoforme]

>Gunman reported
>Dude with a gun tries to run the blockade
>Cops stop him
>Surprised Pikachu face; cops are bad

Do your job faggot. RLTW? Just a slogan I guess.

[okie]

This is somewhat of a different set of circumstances, but still very relatable.

There was a mile wide tornado that wiped out a huge school, and there was a lot of advanced warning. Parents tried to get their kids out of the school to drive away from the tornado or seek better shelter than what the school had (they had a reinforced hallway but no legit tornado shelter). They had plenty of time, but the school wouldn't release the kids because in their infinite wisdom they decided that the kids were safer in the school's reinforced hallway than fleeing in a vehicle. Naturally the mile wide F5 takes out the school and a bunch of the kids are killed.

You can imagine what would have happened if that had been any private institution like a private school or daycare. They would have been sued into oblivion, and the administrators who refused the parents access to their children would have been brought up on all kinds of charges. If you're from Oklahoma, you know how those big tornados work. They're usually pretty slow moving and raze everything in their path. Even the official protocol says if you don't have a legit tornado shelter you're best hope is to outrun it. What those administrators did crossed over from negligence to premeditated mass murder. Like that's the level of incompetence and ignorance they showed. Any halfway sane person would have been loading the kids onto buses and getting them out of there.

Why parents continue to willingly turn over their children to an out of control state with zero accountability is beyond me. Their systemic tendency to continuously endanger and otherwise damage the minds of children is beyond pathological. And since the kids are no longer receiving even the most rudimentary education, I can't imagine what the motive is for parents anymore, other than it's a place where they can legally abandon their kids for eight hours a day for free. They would probably be safer and learn more if you just dropped them off at the bus station with a smart phone.

[SteyrAUG]

This is somewhat of a different set of circumstances, but still very relatable.

There was a mile wide tornado that wiped out a huge school, and there was a lot of advanced warning. Parents tried to get their kids out of the school to drive away from the tornado or seek better shelter than what the school had (they had a reinforced hallway but no legit tornado shelter). They had plenty of time, but the school wouldn't release the kids because in their infinite wisdom they decided that the kids were safer in the school's reinforced hallway than fleeing in a vehicle. Naturally the mile wide F5 takes out the school and a bunch of the kids are killed.

You can imagine what would have happened if that had been any private institution like a private school or daycare. They would have been sued into oblivion, and the administrators who refused the parents access to their children would have been brought up on all kinds of charges. If you're from Oklahoma, you know how those big tornados work. They're usually pretty slow moving and raze everything in their path. Even the official protocol says if you don't have a legit tornado shelter you're best hope is to outrun it. What those administrators did crossed over from negligence to premeditated mass murder. Like that's the level of incompetence and ignorance they showed. Any halfway sane person would have been loading the kids onto buses and getting them out of there.

Why parents continue to willingly turn over their children to an out of control state with zero accountability is beyond me. Their systemic tendency to continuously endanger and otherwise damage the minds of children is beyond pathological. And since the kids are no longer receiving even the most rudimentary education, I can't imagine what the motive is for parents anymore, other than it's a place where they can legally abandon their kids for eight hours a day for free. They would probably be safer and learn more if you just dropped them off at the bus station with a smart phone.

Because they were raised in the same public schools and can't think like an individual?

It's harder than most here can understand. We are an exception who has already arrived at providing for our own personal security vs. "dial 911 and do NOTHING." It's easier for us to extend that mindset to our family. The rest of the planet has been instructed that their kids are the property of "the village."

And it takes something huge to break out of that mindset. But if they get injured and robbed because 911 took a lot longer than they were led to believe, they might figure it out for next time. As a gun dealer, I meet a lot of these people. The funny thing is they tend to be the same "it takes a village to raise my kids" person EXCEPT they now own a gun "just in case" 911 is really slow the next time. They make a simple modification to their belief system rather than a critical overhaul. And only those who are truly willing to die for their kids, can make a similar mindset adjustment when their kids are in harms way and beyond their personal protection.

The rest wishes they could have saved their kids but the school, the crossing guard or the cafeteria lady told them "no" and those people are the village and you have to listen to the village.

Some of us were just lucky and had parents who raised us to think "you might have to take care of yourself one day" or we simply realized many of those who are supposed to be taking care of us are useless, worthless or a combination of the two and we better be prepared to take care of ourselves.

[1168]

Do your job faggot. RLTW? Just a slogan I guess.

I’m not defending cops not performing their jobs. As I’ve said before, cops not entering and clearing immediately should be fired and/or prosecuted. But letting randos in during a lockdown is counterproductive.

Read my first post again.