AZ cops taze, arrest parents trying to get their kids after gunman reported at school

[Diamondback]

I think almost everybody is right there. Ball is in the LEOs court and it now falls upon every other LEO in the nation to offset Uvalde and it's gonna take more than a few heroic saves before anyone forgets Uvalde anytime soon. If that does not happen, expect the citizens brigade to show up more often. And as soon as some LEO zips on of them by mistaking them for an active shooter it's gonna be really bad.

So let's invite a more proactive mindset: what can GOOD LE proactively do before the next storm breaks to try to rebuild that broken trust and demonstrate that they're on the ball, well trained and just waiting for Go Time, whether directed or "if you're there you go in, Come As You Are"?

[SteyrAUG]

So let's invite a more proactive mindset: what can GOOD LE proactively do before the next storm breaks to try to rebuild that broken trust and demonstrate that they're on the ball, well trained and just waiting for Go Time, whether directed or "if you're there you go in, Come As You Are"?

Well some are already doing that. But as I noted earlier we don't notice the success stories where LEOs prevented incidents before they even happened. I know enough officers personally, that I genuinely believe would lay down their life RIGHT NOW if it meant saving kids that it would probably take an hour or so to type out all their names. But that dedicate might as well be invisible as far as the average person is concerned because they don't know these guys and probably don't know a single LEO well enough to make that determination.

But something has to change regarding the ROE when it comes to keeping freaked out parents from running into schools because they believe nobody is going to save their kids. This has to be treated like a Rodney King incident and just like that event meant most cops had ALL of their impact weapons taken away (No batons, PR-24s and far less asp batons) which led to what seemed like an increased incidence of "Don't taze me bro" because that and pepper spray is all they had left. The "can't breathe" crowd meant more than a few departments ditched their pepper spray and OC which is why we have a current environment where tazers are handed out like Oprah giving away free cars.

I think at this point, they almost need to establish a QRF at every school so you have a minimum of maybe 4 guys on site with everything they need. The problem with this is everyone will cry "militarization of our police force and the establishment of the school gestapo." And since most schools won't experience an active shooter (especially with a 4 man response team on site), those guys will be tasked with secondary assignments which kind of will result in something like a school gestapo. When you combine this with the "defund the police" and "replace the police with community patrols" nonsense it would be a hard, hard sell.

There is actually a movement to take resource officers OUT of schools, with the argument that they did nothing at Parkland and Uvalde. Some people actually think "police free zones" at schools are gonna solve their problems.