Return Of The M193 Clones

[Krazykarl]

Molon,

Sinclair front rest? What top is on it?

Thanks again for a well designed and presented comparison.

[Rmorris]

I find this quite useful. I had planned to make a purchase soon. This reaffirms my choice. Has a similar m855 or m262 comparison been done recently? Would you compare pmc’s x Tac clone as well? I could do the first part, but the barrel would not be the same. I’ll happily fund the ammo.

[Circle_10]

I find this quite useful. I had planned to make a purchase soon. This reaffirms my choice. Has a similar m855 or m262 comparison been done recently? Would you compare pmc’s x Tac clone as well? I could do the first part, but the barrel would not be the same. I’ll happily fund the ammo.

I’d be curious to see some numbers on *current production* X-Tac as well. It’s what I have been buying the most of lately due to cost. However it wouldn’t generally be my first choice otherwise because in late 2021 I bumped into a guy I know at the range and he had one of those Magnetospeed barrel mounted chronographs so we decided to try it on my 20” AR with some 55gr X-Tac and the velocities were quite disappointing- mostly barely getting over the 3000fps mark, with some shots even coming in in below 3000. Granted it was cold out but even then that seemed quite poor for supposed M193-spec ammo out of a 20” barrel.
I’ve heard some talk that current production X-Tac is more in line with proper M193 velocities however, but can’t personally substantiate that.

[Disciple]

Thank you.

[Molon]

Molon,

Sinclair front rest? What top is on it?

Yes. It's currently wearing the Sinclair gen II windage top

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[Swstock]

Wow Im happy to see a Molon post here.

[Molon]

Molon, I love you, no homo. On a serious note, thank you. Your posts and knowledge offer a lot of help to people. Sadly, lots of it will be used by people who don't understand it, so they misquote portions and take the rest out of context, but I guess that is just the magic of the internet. Seriously, thanks for the post.

Muchas gracias.

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[Straight Shooter]

Molon-
Any thoughts or tests of the German MEN M193?

[Wake27]

Molon-
Any thoughts or tests of the German MEN M193?

I’ve been debating getting some of that for a while. Just hard to justify the price over PMC Bronze for blasting stuff.


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[Straight Shooter]

I’ve been debating getting some of that for a while. Just hard to justify the price over PMC Bronze for blasting stuff.


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Its supposed to be real deal German issue 193. Ive been shooting it for several years, chrono'ed like it should and never a problem.
If Molon has tested it or knows more about it than me, Id like to hear his thoughts.
Ill tell you this..its the shiniest ammo Ive ever seen, not that THAT is important, but the brass is outstanding. I give mine to a guy that reloads and he loves it.
Ive got a few thousand rounds of it, it did get scarce for awhile, but its been back awhile now.